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We are getting the occasional question about our support of Spiral Types other than the traditional Clothoid Spiral that is used in Road Construction. There are many types of Spiral out there that get used in different parts of the world and primarily for Railway work. Spiral Types include

  • Clothoid
  • BLOSS Curves
  • Cubic Parabolas
  • Korean Cubic Parabolas
  • Half Sine Spirals
  • NSW Cubic Parabola

 

Business Center - HCE and Trimble Business Center supports all of the above Spiral Types. There are Spiral Types that it doesn't support. This is however only half the challenge.

 

If you create a Corridor Model that uses these types of Spiral, can you use the data downstream in any of the Trimble Field Systems. Below I will try to address this issue.

 

Trimble GCS900 / Trimble Earthworks / Trimble PCS900 Machine Control Systems

These systems all employ either SVD / SVL or DSZ file formats for the design models. The SVL or DSZ file is what carries the alignment geometry. Those file types actually use a chorded approximation of the alignment, chorded to a density that is unnoticeable on the machines. In the file format the chords all have the true stationing at that location stored as a part of the file format, so while in each chord, as you move towards the end of the chord, the station will be off fractionally, it will be unnoticeable on the machine. 

 

As a result of this approach, the Machine Control Systems all work with all of the above Spiral Types because they are not actually dependent on the alignment geometry or a calculation engine for the computation of Station and Offset from these Spiral Type elements.

 

Trimble SCS900

Trimble SCS900 utilizes the Terramodel PRO file for its corridor models. The PRO File format only supports the Clothoid Spiral. There is no support in SCS900 or the Field Data Exporter for Alignments or Road Surface Models for any alignment other than one that utilizes a Clothoid Spiral.

 

Trimble Siteworks

Trimble Siteworks is officially the same as Trimble SCS900. However Siteworks also has initial support for TBC VCL files as a Design Model. Currently you would have to select an Alignment and a Normal Surface Model (not a corridor surface model) and any linework required, and then run the normal Exporter, Select VCL File and output the data to the correct Design Folder for the correct device(s). When you open this type of file in Siteworks, the alignment will support all of the above spirals with the exception of the Half Sine Spiral currently. This is a VCL File Version Issue - Siteworks has not yet been updated to the BC-HCE 4.12 or TBC v5 VCL Version, once that is done, it will support all of the spiral types from TBC using the VCL format.

 

Trimble SitePulse

This has the same data structure as Trimble SiteWorks and also supports VCL format in the same way. It also has the same VCL version issue for Half Sine Spirals.

 

Trimble Access

Trimble Access Portal states that it supports the following Spiral Types in its Road Model definition (RXL Format)

 

  • Clothoid Spiral
  • Egg-Shaped Clothoid Spiral
  • Cubic Spiral (Cubic Parabola)
  • BLOSS
  • Korean Cubic Parabola
  • NSW Cubic Parabola

 

Note that the Egg-Shaped Spiral is not currently supported in Trimble Business Center v5.0.

 

People often ask - Can I just change the spiral type, and if I do what difference will it make? The simple answer is No you cannot just change the spiral type and expect it to give you the same numbers exactly. If you change the spiral type several things can happen

 

  1. The spiral can change position along its length
  2. The spiral may start at the same location but it may end at a different location
  3. The Spiral elements may no longer be Tangential with the inbound or outbound alignment elements

 

The errors associated with a change of Spiral Type will of course depend on the following

  1. The start and end radii of the spiral
  2. The length of the spiral
  3. The formula used to define the spiral

 

In some scenarios, it may be possible to change the Spiral Type and still get results that approximate to within an acceptable tolerance of the original data, however you would need to validate every part of an alignment after making such a change - Trimble cannot support that this is either viable, acceptable or good practice. As an industry professional you would be entirely responsible for making such a decision and the consequences of making any such change. Business center provides you with the tools necessary to explore these types of changes to see what effect it may have on the data. 

 

When checking or validating such a change, be sure to create a set of points from the original data that are fixed in space, that follow the entire original alignment, so that you can compare their position to any adjusted alignment. You have to validate along the entire length of all spiral elements not just at the end points, as some spiral types bulge more or less than other spiral types.

 

I hope that this helps provide background to this subject area

 

Alan

Today's Tip started out as a question from George Henry Schneider.

 

He was asking about how to model scenarios where e.g. a Layer or more of the subgrade Site Improvement beneath e.g. a Parking Area extends a distance below the curb and Gutter Section which also has a Site Improvement on which it sits.

 

In the example that I created, I had a Parking Area Material Stack that includes the following

 

4" Asphalt

6" Aggregate Base

3" Sand

 

Beneath the Curb which is itself 6" deep at the interface with the edge of Asphalt, we had the following material stack

 

4" Aggregate Base (this is 4/6 of the Aggregate Base beneath the Parking Area)

 

In addition the design calls for an additional 3" sand layer for a distance of 6" beneath the Curb section, extending from the subgrade beneath the parking area.

 

Beneath the Sidewalk we have

 

6" Concrete

2" Sand

 

So Something like this

 

So the steps to model this that I took were as follows

 

1) Create the "Earthen Select" Materials in the Materials And Site Improvement Manager for the following

   

Asphalt

Aggregate Base I

Aggregate Base II

Sand

Concrete

 

2) Create the Subgrade Site Improvements as follows

 

Subgrade: Parking Area (Site Improvement I)

Asphalt Layer 4"

Aggregate Base I Layer 2"

Aggregate Base Layer II 4"

Sand Layer 3"

 

Subgrade: Curb and Parking Area (Site Improvement 2)

Aggregate Base II Layer 4" 

Sand Layer 3"

 

Subgrade: Curb Area (Site Improvement 3)

Aggregate Base II Layer 4"

 

Subgrade: Sidewalk Area (Site Improvement 4)

Concrete Layer 6"

Sand Layer 2"

 

Note that the 6" Aggregate Base Layer under the Parking Lot has been split into two Aggregate Base Layers - one 4" thick and the other 2" thick, and the materials used are Aggregate Base I and Aggregate Base II. This is so that we can match up the layers beneath the Curb Section correctly. The dashed green line in the picture above.

 

In the Design Model for Finished Grade we have the following lines for the main features as follows

 

Edge of Pavement

Flow Line

Top Face of Curb

Top Back of Curb

Sidewalk

 

 

Because the application of site improvements will not work beneath a finished grade surface that tracks the Edge of Pavement, Flow Line, Top Face of Curb, Top Back of Curb shape, I recommend offsetting the Edge of Pavement String and Top Back Of Curb strings to the bottom of curb and then using those offset lines along with Edge of Pavement, Top Back of Curb and Sidewalk to make the Finished Grade model. That way when we apply site improvements below the curb area of the surface it will offset below correctly.

 

If you want a Top of Curb Surface then you can take the Edge of Pavement, Flow Line, Top Face of Curb and the Top Back of Curb strings and make a surface called Top of Curb. Note that when you do this - in the example shown in the video you will also get the Pavement surface of the parking lot in this Top of Curb Surface. To stop that from forming, I then applied a Null Site Improvement to the Top Of Curb Surface in the area of the parking pavement to remove those triangles from the Top of Curb Surface.

 

Lastly, we need to create the offset line for the 6" offset (where we need to extend the Aggregate Base and Sand Layers beneath the Curb section. I then draped that offset line on the Finished Grade Surface (the one that runs around the base of the curb section).

 

Now we can apply the Site Improvements to the Finished Grade surface as shown in the diagram.

 

Lastly we can create the Subgrade Surfaces for the Bottom of material layers that we need for the Volumes or machine control / site positioning applications using the Create Subgrade Surface command.

 

Check what you created using Surface Slicer and 3D Views etc. to make sure you didn't make any mistakes and you are done. The video shows all of these steps.

 

 

I enclose the TBC v5 Project so that you can take a look at it in your own time, let me know if you have any further questions

 

Happy Modeling

 

Alan