I'll add to all the agreements. In addition to the TDC150 then TDC650 shortcomings, the combination of the TDC600/TDC6, DA2 Catalyst, Terraflex, and Trimble Connect is still not to the level of efficiency we used to get with the Geo7X/Terrasync/PFO combo. While Trimble has made strides with these systems it's been several years since these have come out and IMO it still has a ways to go. I agree with Thomas' comment on a dream device similar to the integrated Geo7x and Joel's comment on all the peripheries you seem to need whereas in the past, you had one rugged device and with one battery. Even with the integrated rangefinder attached the entire unit was comfortable to hold, ergonomic, streamlined, and just had an indestructible feel to it (it practically was). Never sure why they could not take that exact same design and build it around an Android.
Original Message:
Sent: 08-01-2025 15:10
From: Joel Cusick
Subject: TDC 600
Couldn't agree more with the sentiment expressed here. I think some of the modernization were seeing is starting to backfire for those of us who do GIS outside!!!!. Frustration where it now takes 4 objects to carry (BT antenna, phone, battery pack, MIFI) and then middleware, and app. Enough to make the ole head spin, and I've been doing GNSS for 30 years. Explaining this to someone starting out.... good luck eh? then there is the touch screen....
If I had a golden request it would be to leverage the Android TSC5 (available for surveyors), a wicked RTK module (cm) or a helical WAAS hi precision antenna (solid 60-40cm accuracy) that a user could swap in/out. The TSC5 battery is incredibly powerful, keyboard/hot key assignment to collection... etc. Surveyors got it made with ACCESS on a TSC5!
Go GIS!
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Joel Cusick
Original Message:
Sent: 08-01-2025 14:58
From: Tomasz Szabon
Subject: TDC 600
I completely agree. I've used both the Geo7x and the TDC650, and the Geo7x screen was far superior-especially in bright conditions and cold weather. The old screen worked flawlessly with any gloves or a stylus, while the new one is unresponsive and far less bright. It genuinely feels as though the designers of these newer devices completely ignored their intended purpose.
Unfortunately, all handheld devices have now been discontinued, leaving us only with the rather expensive Trimble Catalyst & DA2 setup paired with a phone. The Geo7x was compact, solid, durable, and shockproof, with an excellent screen, a swappable battery, and even a built‑in rangefinder-features that made it an exceptional device. I thinkTrimble made several missteps with the newer TDC series, which likely explains why they were all discontinued after just a few years.
My dream device would be a Geo8x with L1, L2, and L5 support, centimeter‑level accuracy, a built‑in rangefinder, a large swappable battery, 4G/5G connectivity, Bluetooth 5, a resistive touch panel with stylus support, Wi‑Fi 5 or 6, and the latest GNSS technology. The operating system doesn't really matter - Windows CE is obviously outdated, but it was simple, stable, and perfect for its purpose. That's exactly what we want, Trimble.
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Tomasz Szabon
Original Message:
Sent: 07-31-2025 07:45
From: David Donlon
Subject: TDC 600
I am using a TDC 600 with catalyst , I find I cannot see the screen in any sort of normal daylight and also the touch screen is very hard to use if its raining. I set the screen to its max but its still hard to see.
I used Geo 7000s for years and they had a great screen and stylus that worked in any weather.
Are Trimble looking at bringing in something similar to the Geo using andriod OS
Thanks
David
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David Donlon
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