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  • 1.  NAD 83 and Trimble Connect/Terraflex

    Posted 11-03-2021 09:15
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    Hello, this situation may require a little backstory to get the full context so please bear with me (Equipment Used: TDC600, Trimble Connect, Trimble Terraflex, R2, and Tornado Pole).

    I received an AutoCAD DWG file from a surveying company pertaining to a project that I was working on for a client. The coordinate system assigned in the AutoCAD file was GA83-WF (NAD 83 Georgia State Planes, West Zone, US Foot). I was tasked with putting together a utility layout in AutoCAD Map, and then steak the locations of the light poles. We were aware that Trimble Connect does not currently accept NAD 83 as a datum reference, so from AutoCAD we exported our light poles into a shapefile with a coordinate conversion to WGS 1984. We then imported the resulting shapefile into a Trimble Map Workspace that was setup in WGS 1984. We started to locate our light poles, and we began to notice that the poles were consistently 3' due South East off target.

    So since our light pole points were not lining in as they were laid out in our AutoCAD Drawing, we decide to go to a known reference point. In our case this was a property pin that the surveying company picked up and had in their AutoCAD file. We performed the same workflow as before, we exported that property pin point from AutoCAD to a shapefile (converted to WGS 1984), imported that property pin point into a Trimble M.W.S. setup in WGS 1984, and began the locating process. We walked to the location of the property pin (we could visibly see the pin), and find the point the TDC600 is telling us the pin is located at. We are again about 3' due South East of the actual location of the property pin.

    I then tried to export the property pin point to NAD 83 (2011) and then import it into a NAD 83 (2011) M.W.S., but we still did not end up on top of the property pin (we were about 1' due South East off of the actual property pin). We tried a few other methods of exporting from AutoCAD and importing into Trimble Connect, but none of them were putting us on top of the property pin. I then had the idea to export the property pin point from AutoCAD to WGS 1984 and import that into a Trimble M.W.S. using NAD 83 (2011). We then begin to locate again, and we actually landed on top of the property pin. We export the rest of our light poles using this same methodology and they seem to be falling onto the locations that we designed in the AutoCAD file.

    What is the workflow that Trimble recommends, when you are using a base file to work off of that is not in a datum that Trimble Connect supports?

    (The image attached below is a diagram displaying what we saw in the field)


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    Brandon Connelly
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  • 2.  RE: NAD 83 and Trimble Connect/Terraflex

    Posted 11-04-2021 07:53
    This seems like a shift between realizations of NAD 1983. I think you are seeing this as well.

    When you say "Trimble Connect does not currently accept NAD 83 as a datum reference,...", which realization of NAD 1983 are we talking about?

    "We then begin to locate again, and we actually landed on top of the property pin. We export the rest of our light poles using this same methodology and they seem to be falling onto the locations that we designed in the AutoCAD file."

    Does this mean you resolved the issue but are looking for a Trimble-only workflow?

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    Paul Lohr
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  • 3.  RE: NAD 83 and Trimble Connect/Terraflex

    Posted 11-04-2021 08:37
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    I believe that the AutoCAD file is using the 1993 realization of NAD 83. In our experience the only year of NAD 83 that Trimble Connect will currently accept is 2011.

     

    It appears that we solved the issue, but I was wanting to know what Trimble recommends when you are working off of a base file that uses a datum that Trimble Connect does not accept.



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    Brandon Connelly
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