Trimble Penmap

Hi all,

I am testing Penmap for Android Unlimited per month (release 11.8.0.2490) with Catalyst DA2 and have encountered some issues or different limitations that I am unable to work out.

I need to import my local control points into a project, to define a local reference frame (ENh) without Datum or projection. My idea is to perform a site calibration using my local coordinates as reference nodes. I remember that I have made exactly this procedure some time ago, in a previus release of Penmap with Catalyst DA1, but in that case I entered the reference nodes manually in Penmap Point Manager, with success.
Now, working with the current environment, I am not able to enter points manually into the Point Manager (is this a new limitation?) and I am tryng to import my points by creating a new project in Penmap Project Manager. Despite many attempts, point importation by csv file seems to fail, and I get a format error even though the format looks correct according to manual:

PointID,Easting,Northing,Elevation,Code
GCP01,986.354,956.029,227.649,A

Importing the points though a shapefile is successful, but the imported coordinates are saved in a GIS layer (where I see different decimal separator for planar coordinates and height!) and partially uploaded to the Point Manager list, being imported the planar components only, without height and point names.
I have tried to edit the point list but the only editable field is the elevation, other fields cannot be modified. The point type that the points are associated to is "Freepoint".

Trying to perform a site calibration, I'm not able to tap on the reference nodes since they are not correctly selected (selection tap fails). I have made a test by tapping on a measured point (GNSS type) as reference mode, the selection is possible but the point is not accepted as a reference node.

Am I wrong or there are some troubles with my setup and tools?

Thank you

Best regards,

Hi all,

I am testing Penmap for Android Unlimited per month (release 11.8.0.2490) with Catalyst DA2 and have encountered some issues or different limitations that I am unable to work out.

I need to import my local control points into a project, to define a local reference frame (ENh) without Datum or projection. My idea is to perform a site calibration using my local coordinates as reference nodes. I remember that I have made exactly this procedure some time ago, in a previus release of Penmap with Catalyst DA1, but in that case I entered the reference nodes manually in Penmap Point Manager, with success.
Now, working with the current environment, I am not able to enter points manually into the Point Manager (is this a new limitation?) and I am tryng to import my points by creating a new project in Penmap Project Manager. Despite many attempts, point importation by csv file seems to fail, and I get a format error even though the format looks correct according to manual:

PointID,Easting,Northing,Elevation,Code
GCP01,986.354,956.029,227.649,A

Importing the points though a shapefile is successful, but the imported coordinates are saved in a GIS layer (where I see different decimal separator for planar coordinates and height!) and partially uploaded to the Point Manager list, being imported the planar components only, without height and point names.
I have tried to edit the point list but the only editable field is the elevation, other fields cannot be modified. The point type that the points are associated to is "Freepoint".

Trying to perform a site calibration, I'm not able to tap on the reference nodes since they are not correctly selected (selection tap fails). I have made a test by tapping on a measured point (GNSS type) as reference mode, the selection is possible but the point is not accepted as a reference node.

Am I wrong or there are some troubles with my setup and tools?

Thank you

Best regards,

Hi all,

I am testing Penmap for Android Unlimited per month (release 11.8.0.2490) with Catalyst DA2 and have encountered some issues or different limitations that I am unable to work out.

I need to import my local control points into a project, to define a local reference frame (ENh) without Datum or projection. My idea is to perform a site calibration using my local coordinates as reference nodes. I remember that I have made exactly this procedure some time ago, in a previus release of Penmap with Catalyst DA1, but in that case I entered the reference nodes manually in Penmap Point Manager, with success.
Now, working with the current environment, I am not able to enter points manually into the Point Manager (is this a new limitation?) and I am tryng to import my points by creating a new project in Penmap Project Manager. Despite many attempts, point importation by csv file seems to fail, and I get a format error even though the format looks correct according to manual:

PointID,Easting,Northing,Elevation,Code
GCP01,986.354,956.029,227.649,A

Importing the points though a shapefile is successful, but the imported coordinates are saved in a GIS layer (where I see different decimal separator for planar coordinates and height!) and partially uploaded to the Point Manager list, being imported the planar components only, without height and point names.
I have tried to edit the point list but the only editable field is the elevation, other fields cannot be modified. The point type that the points are associated to is "Freepoint".

Trying to perform a site calibration, I'm not able to tap on the reference nodes since they are not correctly selected (selection tap fails). I have made a test by tapping on a measured point (GNSS type) as reference mode, the selection is possible but the point is not accepted as a reference node.

Am I wrong or there are some troubles with my setup and tools?

Thank you

Best regards,

Dear Zack, Patrik

Many thanks for your reply. I made a double check on the importing csv and succeeded to get the points into the project. It was probably a problem due to headers.
Now that my points are inside the project as Free Points in local coordinates (around position 1000, 1000, 200 meters), I wanted to perform a site calibration using those points as reference nodes.
I was able to do that some time ago, in April, using the Penmap version available at that time (11.6.0.x). As you can see in the attached screenshots, a calibration was computed through reference nodes with coordinates in a local reference frame (ENh around 100, 100, 100 m).

In the current version I'm not able to tap the reference nodes, as showed in the attached screenshot. Points in the local coordinates cannot be selected any way. It seems a graphic issue due to big distances between local and global coordinates. How can I go through this and get a successful site calibration on local (no projecton, no datum) reference system? This would be very useful for our application.

Kind regards
Massimo

Hi all,

I am testing Penmap for Android Unlimited per month (release 11.8.0.2490) with Catalyst DA2 and have encountered some issues or different limitations that I am unable to work out.

I need to import my local control points into a project, to define a local reference frame (ENh) without Datum or projection. My idea is to perform a site calibration using my local coordinates as reference nodes. I remember that I have made exactly this procedure some time ago, in a previus release of Penmap with Catalyst DA1, but in that case I entered the reference nodes manually in Penmap Point Manager, with success.
Now, working with the current environment, I am not able to enter points manually into the Point Manager (is this a new limitation?) and I am tryng to import my points by creating a new project in Penmap Project Manager. Despite many attempts, point importation by csv file seems to fail, and I get a format error even though the format looks correct according to manual:

PointID,Easting,Northing,Elevation,Code
GCP01,986.354,956.029,227.649,A

Importing the points though a shapefile is successful, but the imported coordinates are saved in a GIS layer (where I see different decimal separator for planar coordinates and height!) and partially uploaded to the Point Manager list, being imported the planar components only, without height and point names.
I have tried to edit the point list but the only editable field is the elevation, other fields cannot be modified. The point type that the points are associated to is "Freepoint".

Trying to perform a site calibration, I'm not able to tap on the reference nodes since they are not correctly selected (selection tap fails). I have made a test by tapping on a measured point (GNSS type) as reference mode, the selection is possible but the point is not accepted as a reference node.

Am I wrong or there are some troubles with my setup and tools?

Thank you

Best regards,

Dear Massimo,

coordinates in penmap need to match the coordinatesystem.

What you can do is to set your values higher by the same amount in the imported csv so your location is shifted further to the location you desire. 
E.g. using Germany UTM Zone 32 I would add a 500000 easting and 5000000 in northing.

Kind regards
Patrik

Dear Zack, Patrik

Many thanks for your reply. I made a double check on the importing csv and succeeded to get the points into the project. It was probably a problem due to headers.
Now that my points are inside the project as Free Points in local coordinates (around position 1000, 1000, 200 meters), I wanted to perform a site calibration using those points as reference nodes.
I was able to do that some time ago, in April, using the Penmap version available at that time (11.6.0.x). As you can see in the attached screenshots, a calibration was computed through reference nodes with coordinates in a local reference frame (ENh around 100, 100, 100 m).

In the current version I'm not able to tap the reference nodes, as showed in the attached screenshot. Points in the local coordinates cannot be selected any way. It seems a graphic issue due to big distances between local and global coordinates. How can I go through this and get a successful site calibration on local (no projecton, no datum) reference system? This would be very useful for our application.

Kind regards
Massimo

Hi all,

I am testing Penmap for Android Unlimited per month (release 11.8.0.2490) with Catalyst DA2 and have encountered some issues or different limitations that I am unable to work out.

I need to import my local control points into a project, to define a local reference frame (ENh) without Datum or projection. My idea is to perform a site calibration using my local coordinates as reference nodes. I remember that I have made exactly this procedure some time ago, in a previus release of Penmap with Catalyst DA1, but in that case I entered the reference nodes manually in Penmap Point Manager, with success.
Now, working with the current environment, I am not able to enter points manually into the Point Manager (is this a new limitation?) and I am tryng to import my points by creating a new project in Penmap Project Manager. Despite many attempts, point importation by csv file seems to fail, and I get a format error even though the format looks correct according to manual:

PointID,Easting,Northing,Elevation,Code
GCP01,986.354,956.029,227.649,A

Importing the points though a shapefile is successful, but the imported coordinates are saved in a GIS layer (where I see different decimal separator for planar coordinates and height!) and partially uploaded to the Point Manager list, being imported the planar components only, without height and point names.
I have tried to edit the point list but the only editable field is the elevation, other fields cannot be modified. The point type that the points are associated to is "Freepoint".

Trying to perform a site calibration, I'm not able to tap on the reference nodes since they are not correctly selected (selection tap fails). I have made a test by tapping on a measured point (GNSS type) as reference mode, the selection is possible but the point is not accepted as a reference node.

Am I wrong or there are some troubles with my setup and tools?

Thank you

Best regards,

Dear Massimo,

coordinates in penmap need to match the coordinatesystem.

What you can do is to set your values higher by the same amount in the imported csv so your location is shifted further to the location you desire. 
E.g. using Germany UTM Zone 32 I would add a 500000 easting and 5000000 in northing.

Kind regards
Patrik

Dear Zack, Patrik

Many thanks for your reply. I made a double check on the importing csv and succeeded to get the points into the project. It was probably a problem due to headers.
Now that my points are inside the project as Free Points in local coordinates (around position 1000, 1000, 200 meters), I wanted to perform a site calibration using those points as reference nodes.
I was able to do that some time ago, in April, using the Penmap version available at that time (11.6.0.x). As you can see in the attached screenshots, a calibration was computed through reference nodes with coordinates in a local reference frame (ENh around 100, 100, 100 m).

In the current version I'm not able to tap the reference nodes, as showed in the attached screenshot. Points in the local coordinates cannot be selected any way. It seems a graphic issue due to big distances between local and global coordinates. How can I go through this and get a successful site calibration on local (no projecton, no datum) reference system? This would be very useful for our application.

Kind regards
Massimo

Hi all,

I am testing Penmap for Android Unlimited per month (release 11.8.0.2490) with Catalyst DA2 and have encountered some issues or different limitations that I am unable to work out.

I need to import my local control points into a project, to define a local reference frame (ENh) without Datum or projection. My idea is to perform a site calibration using my local coordinates as reference nodes. I remember that I have made exactly this procedure some time ago, in a previus release of Penmap with Catalyst DA1, but in that case I entered the reference nodes manually in Penmap Point Manager, with success.
Now, working with the current environment, I am not able to enter points manually into the Point Manager (is this a new limitation?) and I am tryng to import my points by creating a new project in Penmap Project Manager. Despite many attempts, point importation by csv file seems to fail, and I get a format error even though the format looks correct according to manual:

PointID,Easting,Northing,Elevation,Code
GCP01,986.354,956.029,227.649,A

Importing the points though a shapefile is successful, but the imported coordinates are saved in a GIS layer (where I see different decimal separator for planar coordinates and height!) and partially uploaded to the Point Manager list, being imported the planar components only, without height and point names.
I have tried to edit the point list but the only editable field is the elevation, other fields cannot be modified. The point type that the points are associated to is "Freepoint".

Trying to perform a site calibration, I'm not able to tap on the reference nodes since they are not correctly selected (selection tap fails). I have made a test by tapping on a measured point (GNSS type) as reference mode, the selection is possible but the point is not accepted as a reference node.

Am I wrong or there are some troubles with my setup and tools?

Thank you

Best regards,