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Dear Gareth,

Yesterday i actvated catalyst 30 subscription and beside this i've 1 hour on-demand too. Tomorow i need for catalyst 30 but i can not change to this. What is the problem?I thought that I can make decision which catalyst levels i would like to use it. The catalyst 30 is activated I checked in TMM, naturally.

Thanks for Your help, Bela

Greetings Béla, 

You should be able to use your Catalyst 30 license so long as it is current, and so long as you don't also have a current Catalyst 1 On Demand license active. Catalyst's license logic is that it will always give you the best possible performance based on the current active licenses associated to the user.

The only reason that you would not get CAT-30 performance is if:

1) You don't have a current CAT-30 license assigned to your username

2) You do have a current CAT-30 license, but you also simultaneously have a current CAT-1 or CAT-10 assigned to you from another account (or you still have an active On Demand session running).

Here below, you can see my TMM screen, where I have a Catalyst 30 subscription and I am also a member of my on On Demand pool. My current license is shown in the Subscription tile, and as you can see this is Catalyst 30.

When I start an On Demand session, I am assigned a 1 hour license to Catalyst 1. This overrides my Catalyst 30 license for the next hour, after that time it will automatically revert back to my default Catalyst 30 license.

Dear Gareth,

Yesterday i actvated catalyst 30 subscription and beside this i've 1 hour on-demand too. Tomorow i need for catalyst 30 but i can not change to this. What is the problem?I thought that I can make decision which catalyst levels i would like to use it. The catalyst 30 is activated I checked in TMM, naturally.

Thanks for Your help, Bela

Gareth,

I have a question regarding Catalyst on Demand offline use. My field crews are typically working offline in a remote area and don't have access to internet or cellular signal.  In your message above you state the following: "If you need a longer duration, you can load multiple licenses at once and they will extend the duration of your session. " How does this work offline.  Do you end up downloading four (4) individual 1-hour licenses that can be consumed as separate 1-hour session as needed throughout the day or is it a 4-hour license block that starts counting down as soon as you start the session?  I'm evaluating Catalyst on Demand for our units, but we constantly work at remote sites so any insight that you can provide would be helpful.

Dear Trimble,

  It would be nice in the next version of Catalyst to be able to "pause" the cm level say for up to 30 minutes while the user

is traveling a long distance between points. Just a suggestion. 

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Vince Cavanaugh

Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2022 23:36
From: Béla Motkó
Subject: On demand subscription is good but very expensive

in the foreground: I have catalyst DA2 which i use with third party app (QField) for surveying or other field work. I love it, precise and works good in the field. But. I hate the on demand subscription (10 hour cm precision).
field example: I started 1 hour session from my pool. I measured cca.5-10 minutes in one place. Approach other field needs 55 minutes by car the started 1 hour session was ended while I got there. Start a new session...see above, in the third place start the third session...etc.
I worked 30 minutes (or less) I've paid 3 hour.
I disconnect the antenna from the TMM, but the counter continues to work. (I did not dare exit from TMM because I supposed I will see a "start new session" message...probably yes. The same cup of tea.
Am I wrong or are there any solution to work with higher cost effectiveness?
Why is not exist such counter based on minutes of the using? The wroted situation is lifelike...the costumer don't like the the next sentences: "we need hurry up because soon end of the session."
Thanks for reply,
Bela
(that's why I use on demand subscription because I've casual works nowdays)

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Béla Motkó
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I agree; it's unfortunate that the survey can't be paused at any time or that the time slots aren't shorter - 15 minutes would be much more reasonable. I face the same issue - I use GPS occasionally, but when I do, I often have to travel 20–30 minutes between survey locations, making this solution quite costly. As long as Trimble lacks serious competition, they likely won't adjust their service to meet customer expectations. Imagine being charged for a full hour every time you make a phone call...

I'd also like more flexibility with the Catalyst on-demand purchase method. Having to go through a local reseller isn't ideal, especially when you need to use it on weekends. An online store with immediate top-up options would be the best solution.

Dear Trimble,

  It would be nice in the next version of Catalyst to be able to "pause" the cm level say for up to 30 minutes while the user

is traveling a long distance between points. Just a suggestion. 

------------------------------
Vince Cavanaugh

Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2022 23:36
From: Béla Motkó
Subject: On demand subscription is good but very expensive

in the foreground: I have catalyst DA2 which i use with third party app (QField) for surveying or other field work. I love it, precise and works good in the field. But. I hate the on demand subscription (10 hour cm precision).
field example: I started 1 hour session from my pool. I measured cca.5-10 minutes in one place. Approach other field needs 55 minutes by car the started 1 hour session was ended while I got there. Start a new session...see above, in the third place start the third session...etc.
I worked 30 minutes (or less) I've paid 3 hour.
I disconnect the antenna from the TMM, but the counter continues to work. (I did not dare exit from TMM because I supposed I will see a "start new session" message...probably yes. The same cup of tea.
Am I wrong or are there any solution to work with higher cost effectiveness?
Why is not exist such counter based on minutes of the using? The wroted situation is lifelike...the costumer don't like the the next sentences: "we need hurry up because soon end of the session."
Thanks for reply,
Bela
(that's why I use on demand subscription because I've casual works nowdays)

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Béla Motkó
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I agree; it's unfortunate that the survey can't be paused at any time or that the time slots aren't shorter - 15 minutes would be much more reasonable. I face the same issue - I use GPS occasionally, but when I do, I often have to travel 20–30 minutes between survey locations, making this solution quite costly. As long as Trimble lacks serious competition, they likely won't adjust their service to meet customer expectations. Imagine being charged for a full hour every time you make a phone call...

I'd also like more flexibility with the Catalyst on-demand purchase method. Having to go through a local reseller isn't ideal, especially when you need to use it on weekends. An online store with immediate top-up options would be the best solution.

Dear Trimble,

  It would be nice in the next version of Catalyst to be able to "pause" the cm level say for up to 30 minutes while the user

is traveling a long distance between points. Just a suggestion. 

------------------------------
Vince Cavanaugh

Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2022 23:36
From: Béla Motkó
Subject: On demand subscription is good but very expensive

in the foreground: I have catalyst DA2 which i use with third party app (QField) for surveying or other field work. I love it, precise and works good in the field. But. I hate the on demand subscription (10 hour cm precision).
field example: I started 1 hour session from my pool. I measured cca.5-10 minutes in one place. Approach other field needs 55 minutes by car the started 1 hour session was ended while I got there. Start a new session...see above, in the third place start the third session...etc.
I worked 30 minutes (or less) I've paid 3 hour.
I disconnect the antenna from the TMM, but the counter continues to work. (I did not dare exit from TMM because I supposed I will see a "start new session" message...probably yes. The same cup of tea.
Am I wrong or are there any solution to work with higher cost effectiveness?
Why is not exist such counter based on minutes of the using? The wroted situation is lifelike...the costumer don't like the the next sentences: "we need hurry up because soon end of the session."
Thanks for reply,
Bela
(that's why I use on demand subscription because I've casual works nowdays)

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Béla Motkó
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I agree; it's unfortunate that the survey can't be paused at any time or that the time slots aren't shorter - 15 minutes would be much more reasonable. I face the same issue - I use GPS occasionally, but when I do, I often have to travel 20–30 minutes between survey locations, making this solution quite costly. As long as Trimble lacks serious competition, they likely won't adjust their service to meet customer expectations. Imagine being charged for a full hour every time you make a phone call...

I'd also like more flexibility with the Catalyst on-demand purchase method. Having to go through a local reseller isn't ideal, especially when you need to use it on weekends. An online store with immediate top-up options would be the best solution.

Dear Trimble,

  It would be nice in the next version of Catalyst to be able to "pause" the cm level say for up to 30 minutes while the user

is traveling a long distance between points. Just a suggestion. 

------------------------------
Vince Cavanaugh

Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2022 23:36
From: Béla Motkó
Subject: On demand subscription is good but very expensive

in the foreground: I have catalyst DA2 which i use with third party app (QField) for surveying or other field work. I love it, precise and works good in the field. But. I hate the on demand subscription (10 hour cm precision).
field example: I started 1 hour session from my pool. I measured cca.5-10 minutes in one place. Approach other field needs 55 minutes by car the started 1 hour session was ended while I got there. Start a new session...see above, in the third place start the third session...etc.
I worked 30 minutes (or less) I've paid 3 hour.
I disconnect the antenna from the TMM, but the counter continues to work. (I did not dare exit from TMM because I supposed I will see a "start new session" message...probably yes. The same cup of tea.
Am I wrong or are there any solution to work with higher cost effectiveness?
Why is not exist such counter based on minutes of the using? The wroted situation is lifelike...the costumer don't like the the next sentences: "we need hurry up because soon end of the session."
Thanks for reply,
Bela
(that's why I use on demand subscription because I've casual works nowdays)

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Béla Motkó
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I agree; it's unfortunate that the survey can't be paused at any time or that the time slots aren't shorter - 15 minutes would be much more reasonable. I face the same issue - I use GPS occasionally, but when I do, I often have to travel 20–30 minutes between survey locations, making this solution quite costly. As long as Trimble lacks serious competition, they likely won't adjust their service to meet customer expectations. Imagine being charged for a full hour every time you make a phone call...

I'd also like more flexibility with the Catalyst on-demand purchase method. Having to go through a local reseller isn't ideal, especially when you need to use it on weekends. An online store with immediate top-up options would be the best solution.

Dear Trimble,

  It would be nice in the next version of Catalyst to be able to "pause" the cm level say for up to 30 minutes while the user

is traveling a long distance between points. Just a suggestion. 

------------------------------
Vince Cavanaugh

Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2022 23:36
From: Béla Motkó
Subject: On demand subscription is good but very expensive

in the foreground: I have catalyst DA2 which i use with third party app (QField) for surveying or other field work. I love it, precise and works good in the field. But. I hate the on demand subscription (10 hour cm precision).
field example: I started 1 hour session from my pool. I measured cca.5-10 minutes in one place. Approach other field needs 55 minutes by car the started 1 hour session was ended while I got there. Start a new session...see above, in the third place start the third session...etc.
I worked 30 minutes (or less) I've paid 3 hour.
I disconnect the antenna from the TMM, but the counter continues to work. (I did not dare exit from TMM because I supposed I will see a "start new session" message...probably yes. The same cup of tea.
Am I wrong or are there any solution to work with higher cost effectiveness?
Why is not exist such counter based on minutes of the using? The wroted situation is lifelike...the costumer don't like the the next sentences: "we need hurry up because soon end of the session."
Thanks for reply,
Bela
(that's why I use on demand subscription because I've casual works nowdays)

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Béla Motkó
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To be fair, Catalyst works really well - it's fast, accurate, reliable and available in many locations around the world - all you need is an internet connection. Hopefully, as cheaper, reusable rockets become more available, more alternative services will emerge, which will drive prices down. Its growing popularity will hopefully make it more affordable as well.

I agree; it's unfortunate that the survey can't be paused at any time or that the time slots aren't shorter - 15 minutes would be much more reasonable. I face the same issue - I use GPS occasionally, but when I do, I often have to travel 20–30 minutes between survey locations, making this solution quite costly. As long as Trimble lacks serious competition, they likely won't adjust their service to meet customer expectations. Imagine being charged for a full hour every time you make a phone call...

I'd also like more flexibility with the Catalyst on-demand purchase method. Having to go through a local reseller isn't ideal, especially when you need to use it on weekends. An online store with immediate top-up options would be the best solution.

Dear Trimble,

  It would be nice in the next version of Catalyst to be able to "pause" the cm level say for up to 30 minutes while the user

is traveling a long distance between points. Just a suggestion. 

------------------------------
Vince Cavanaugh

Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2022 23:36
From: Béla Motkó
Subject: On demand subscription is good but very expensive

in the foreground: I have catalyst DA2 which i use with third party app (QField) for surveying or other field work. I love it, precise and works good in the field. But. I hate the on demand subscription (10 hour cm precision).
field example: I started 1 hour session from my pool. I measured cca.5-10 minutes in one place. Approach other field needs 55 minutes by car the started 1 hour session was ended while I got there. Start a new session...see above, in the third place start the third session...etc.
I worked 30 minutes (or less) I've paid 3 hour.
I disconnect the antenna from the TMM, but the counter continues to work. (I did not dare exit from TMM because I supposed I will see a "start new session" message...probably yes. The same cup of tea.
Am I wrong or are there any solution to work with higher cost effectiveness?
Why is not exist such counter based on minutes of the using? The wroted situation is lifelike...the costumer don't like the the next sentences: "we need hurry up because soon end of the session."
Thanks for reply,
Bela
(that's why I use on demand subscription because I've casual works nowdays)

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Béla Motkó
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