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VCL Designs in WM

  • 1.  VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 05-28-2024 11:07

    When will we be able to upload VCLs directly through the WorksManager interface?



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    Mike Damschroder
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  • 2.  RE: VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 05-29-2024 07:45

    Yes its insane that we can't



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    Wayne Welshans
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  • 3.  RE: VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 05-30-2024 09:40

    Let me give a little more context to the need for this. 

    We run a fleet of TSC5s and need to use alignments are part of our designs. Up until Siteworks version 1.72, .PRO files weren't supported on Android which forces us to utilize VCL files. We're not spending the money and upgrading the software warranties just to be able to use PRO files. I also haven't been comfortable with the WM integration into TBC, so the only other way to get VCLs onto TSC5s is through the use of TCC. Doing it this way we lose the automatic version tracking and design push out that happens in WM, which has created some issues. 



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    Mike Damschroder
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  • 4.  RE: VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 07-13-2024 18:26

    I have seen issue with have a field VCL file for layout.  Somehow TCC lockup the project for the machine control accessing any project designs.  This VCL was sent to the field from WM. Seems as WM gives issue when using VCL.  I hope soon the issues get fixed.  



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    Francisco Guerrero
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  • 5.  RE: VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 4 days ago

    I've been getting frustrated with this lately. It's convenient that WM can synchronize devices over the air, but without VCLs it's getting to be rather pointless. We use VCLs for our devices because they can hold more than one surface. An operator running Earthworks can select which surface they are working on within the same design. This helps save the design list from becoming 50 items long, which keeps us sane because we're not getting calls from Dozer operators all day saying they can't find the design they're supposed to be using. WM does not support this multi-surface functionality, but it really needs to. If we have to go out in person to these machines and upload each one anyway, there's not much reason to continue using this service.



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    Michael Brennan
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  • 6.  RE: VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 3 days ago

    Michael,  I was told if you create the design in TBC using the worksmanager interface within TBC and choose the "User Defined" model option that it will transfer the VCL file to the machines.  I have not had a chance to test this myself yet.  Maybe someone else knows?  Of if you try it you can let us know?



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    Wayne Welshans
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  • 7.  RE: VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 23 hours ago

    Michael, Wayne is correct. Instead of selecting "surface" on your design export from TBC, use the "User Defined " option, pick your surfaces from the Project explorer tab. All of the surfaces will be in VCL and multiple surfaces will be available on earthworks machines.

    Thanks, Tom



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    Thomas Mauriello
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  • 8.  RE: VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 21 hours ago

    Has the VCL option been fixed for the machine control?  There has been issue where it will freeze up the Site and not let you open the Site.  I have even run into the issue where I had a VCL for the data collectors and it affect the machine control Site.  We had to remove the design from the TCC files.  



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    Francisco Guerrero
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  • 9.  RE: VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 20 hours ago

    Are you talking about the thing it does after loading some VCLs where the Job Setup window won't let you select the design for several minutes?



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    Michael Brennan
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  • 10.  RE: VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 20 hours ago

    This is from what i was told, that not to use the VCL as the machine did not like them.  So i tried it for the field crew data collector.  And somehow the machine tried to pick it up and the job Site would not load.  



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    Francisco Guerrero
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  • 11.  RE: VCL Designs in WM

    Posted 20 hours ago

    You should experiment with it a little more, the VCLs are very convenient so it would be worth it to figure out exactly what the issue is.



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    Michael Brennan
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