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Hey is anyone else having issues with how line marking is being displayed in ver 5.31?  Even though I don't have line marking toggled on, whenever I edit a linestring to line marking stays on and when I make a elevation change the line marking still shows the old elevation plus the new one on top so you can hardly read it.  I even tried selecting the line marking and it selects a horizontal alignment that is on the other side of the project!  It's a hot mess that needs fixed.

Ben

Try using the Filter Line markings command to deselect all lines to clear that (that is different to the Toggle Line Markings switch at the base of the screen).- it could be a setup issue in your Project Settings - View - Display Options as I am not seeing the same thing Ben - we can take a look at it together on Monday if you need me to call send me an email.

Try the following

Have nothing selected

Press F12

Type Filter to find Filter Line marking command

Select 0 objects and tap OK - that will clear the filter line marking override (this overrides the Toggle Line Markings)

Now Toggle Line Markings should work as before

If in your Project Settings you have say the Line Markings set to eg 1000 objects, and lets say you have 50 objects selected to currently show line markings with the Filter Line Markings command - then when you edit a linestring it shows the line markings but it gets added to the 50 that you already had making 51. When you stop editing the linestring it still shows the line markings because Filter line Marking is enabled. If you disable it as listed above, then when you edit a linestring it shows the line markings and when you close the edit then it no longer shows the line markings as you are used to working.

I can explain more on the phone.

I dont know how the Filter Line Markings got enabled - you may have done that inadvertently as in eg my menus I use CTRL F to do that and that is also Find in Word and Excel etc so maybe you had data selected and did a CTRL F and picked this up as if there is data selected when you do the CTRL F or run the command the Line Markings are only shown on those lines - you can select a few lines and do CTRL F and it shows line markings only on those lines vs all lines in the project - then if you select nothing and do CTRL F and OK it clears it.

Maybe this is what you are seeing?

Alan

Thanks for getting back to me Alan.  I will give this a try today and if it don't work I will get back in touch with you.

Ben

I also have this issue this is a TBC issue not a project related issue, have it on multiple projects it seams BC is not refreshing. it started after a clean install of BC. 

I am also having issues with TBC not refreshing when editing linestrings.

I am getting this problem also.  Using the the Filter Line Marking command and selecting no items does not solve the problem.  I have seen this with every project I've worked on since upgrading to v5.31.

So I did a call with Ted and we looked at what he is seeing so at least I have seen it now, I have reported it in. It appears that this is a Graphics Glitch caused by Graphics Cache not being refreshed correctly which has no doubt been caused by the Graphics work that is ongoing in the product. For now you can open a New Plan View and it will clear the cache and reset. If anyone can capture the steps needed to recreate this repeatedly i.e. the trigger for the glitch that would help - ie if you see it happen, can you record the steps that you were doing immediately prior to it happening and see if you can start a new plan view and recreate it - If I can recreate the steps to make it happen then it can be fixed, however until I can do that I know that it will be harder to get a fix on this.

It did not appear to be a Filter Line Marking issue as I first thought it could be.

Alan

this is not limited to editing a line string issue it also happens when importing a pdf and georeferencing it

I georeferenced this imported pdf and when finished this is what i see it is a refreshing problem.

Will be putting this in as a bug through my sitech dealer as this needs to be patched asap.

I have tracked down the issue with the Linestring Markings - this is happening on Linestrings and Alignments and is a Graphics Cache issue - if you turn Line Markings On and Off it can clear the graphics, and a New Plan View can also create a temporary solution. I have seen the following now personally and have logged them all in, and I think that they all relate to the same issue - that being the Graphics Cache is not being refreshed fully or correctly  

1) When you edit a Linestring, the line markings for that line are shown. When you close the edit the line markings remain on screen. These will clear when you turn Line Markings On and Off.

2) When you turn off an Alignment, the Line Markings at the Node points are left visible - these are cleared when you turn Line Markings On and Off.

3) If you move an Alignment, it leaves a snail trail of purple dots along the path that you dragged the alignment - these also clear with a Line Markings On and Off

4) I saw on a customers computer a situation where line markings were displayed somewhere other than along the line itself - we could not recreate it during the call but I did see it on their computer

5) If you edit a VPI on a linestring, sometimes the old value is still visible behind the new value - this clears when you turn line markings On and Off

6) Yesterday I moved an alignment from one location to another and then recreated the initial alignment in the same place - when I went to click on the alignment it told me that there were two alignments there when I knew there was only one - so the Graphics Cache was still thinking that the alignment I moved was still there - again toggling line markings On and Off fixed the issue

I have reported all of these issues in to Trimble, I know that they have replicated some of them and that this will be fixed in the 5.4 release which is due out soon.

The problem is a Graphics Cache Refresh issue created by the refactoring work that has been ongoing for a while to make the graphics faster and sharper - apologies for the inconvenience - the team is on it.

Alan

Thanks for digging deeper Alan, I was fixing to report the same issue, and I had tried what you mentioned earlier in the post. That does act as a refresh without having to delete the current view, which is the refresh method I was using earlier.

Fixes for these graphics and image issues will be in the upcoming 5.32 release. The team is working to get it out to you as quickly as they can. Apologies for the inconvenience.

David