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Just wondering if anyone has any experience of working with both of these systems?

Looking for some customer side opinions of both packages (Pros/Cons etc)

I'm currently using TCC to transfer all of my designs to the machines, and am looking to check out Works Manager.

Works manager has an in built file flipper which is handy if you have machines running GCS900 and the Earthworks system on the one site. It allows you to create your svl and svd files and upload to both systems in one go. 

I believe works is going to replace everything that Trimble currently has into one.

If you have both systems like Edward has said it speeds things up. It is better also because of geo fencing so the designs are only on assigned machines. Also transfering data to Siteworks is now supported. But it still s new system so it has child diseases sometimes.

I have used both and I must say that I prefer WorksManager.  I know that they are working on creating a work flow to get things from TBC directly into WorksManager in the near future so I have been told.  Although I have yet to use it, it sounds like you will be able to use WorkrsMananger to connect to you data collectors as well and manage your data through there.  At this time I only use TCC for my TSC7 & T7's.  The one thing I do like about WM not being tied to you design in TBC is that if you are doing some changes or revision or anything in TBC that might create a conflict with a design it doesn't make you update the machine file.  WM is the future and TCC will go away I have been told.

Matthew

All the above are correct - the future is works Manager but there may be the odd teething problem as it is all new - there will be more tools in TBC sometime soon to manage the workflow better

Alan

Here is a list of what is currently included and not included in Works manager compared to TCC

https://blog.worksmanager.com/tcc-worksmanager-gap-items/ 

I had one test project, then a machine with Earthworks overlay V.1.10 entered the site and it did't get the design. So the Earthwoks was upgraded to V 1.11 and then it got the project but the coordinate system didn't work had error of cm in the beginning and ended up in WGS 84 height that shows 60m upp from our local coordinate system. No way was to get out of this. we had to factory reset the Earthworks and install V 1.10 again. 

So we have stopped to use the WorksManager.  But I like the idea of it and hope it will have a 3D Viewer for the degins in the future. 

Right now you need to have calibration in order to publish your design to WM. We tried it with one of Trimble guy and SITECH and you can't publish a design without a dc/cal. below

We have projects that are covered with trees and they are saving all the trees incorporating to the design and using GPS is impossible, Can't use State Plane either because the coordinates were assumed (N=5000, E=5000 El=100). We also have smaller projects that do not need GPS and all staking was done using total stations.

You can have both TCC and WM running. So all your projects with calibration can be place in the WM and the one without is to TCC. The problem is the field guys who move from one project to another have to change the account every time they do the syncing from TCC to WM in their data collector.

As long as they extend our TCC account until the WM is fully ready for us, we good for staying in TCC.

Maybe Siteworks will allow us to do a one-point calibration without a base station using a google map lat/long just to start a job.

WorksManager will be a good platform when they get it where TCC is today, that is no where near the case as it is now  lots of things need to be added to accomplish the tasks you can do in TCC. One of the main things is the folder layout you can not remotely get a calibration file from your field crew to WorksManager without TCC. there are a lot of bugs in WorksManager you can't sort jobs by name or anything else your stuck with when they were created, anyone one that has access to your account can delete anyone else, you can't assign roles only admin access. no way to archive jobs for future use if inactive. IBSS bases can't be sorted by name connected devices are serial numbers with no description field if you want to know who is connected pull out a piece of paper to reference serial number to, with 65 units connected that is a royal pain. reporting of GCS devices is sporadic sometimes 15 min other times up to 60 min. in time maybe they will get it where it needs to be as for now I need to use both platforms to do the job TCC can do.

Yup totally agree. It looks to me that they have a long way to go to get it running like TCC. I'll stick to my TCC as long as they let me.

Agreeing with the comments above. We have two EW 2.0 machines that will not sync with WM for the past two weeks. I heard there was a system wide reset on Friday to correct some of the issues. Besides that issue, i like how the file conversions streamline the process of sending out files to the field. Also it becomes a little messy on a project that has has many changes to the design as the versions keep piling up on the machines. We have started creating a new design and deleting the old instead of having so many versions of the same name design(V.01 V.02 etc). I think this will be corrected though as the platform ages.

Tom,
I also have a sync issue with Earthworks 2.0 not working with Works Manager the sync fails during file transfer, if i use the web interface and uncheck every project but the one im am trying to sync that works sometimes but not always 

Tom

I will call you tomorrow on this I just fixed a similar issue in UK today so I think I know what it is

Alan