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  • 1.  Pointcloud wont restore

    Posted 10-14-2020 05:39

    Hi!

     

    Please take a look at the video. I dont know why but the restore-button for pointclouds dont seem to be working. Anyone know why? 

     

    http://somup.com/cY62lzlBqw 



  • 2.  Re: Pointcloud wont restore

    Posted 10-14-2020 11:46

    The Restore All command - according to the Help anyway, states that it is used to restore Hdden Points after you have used the Keep In or Keep Out commands. Those commands basically temporarily hide Point data as you select it and Keep In or Keep Out, so that you can narrow down a point cloud to get what you want before turning the remaining data into a Point Cloud Region, that does not allow for deleting chunks of data which once deleted is removed from the Database.

     

    Typically I do not recommend that you delete data unless you 100% know that you do not need it down stream. Move it into a Hidden Point Cloud Region called Junk or similar so that you still have it available. If you delete it it is gone for good and you cannot get it back without reimporting the file and starting over again.

     

    I don't believe that this has changed behavior recently, however if you feel strongly that it has I can ask the questions of the Geospatial Team if needed - just let me know.

     

    Alan



  • 3.  Re: Pointcloud wont restore

    Posted 10-14-2020 11:54

    When you want to separate the building from the ground and put it in its own Region, then turn off the ground (do not delete it) and then select the building data that you want to separate out and place it in its own Point Cloud Region (away from the other buildings).

     

    When you make your polygon select it says you have two regions (the Buildings and the Ground). Then you do your Keep In, all that is doing is showing you the data inside the polygon and hiding the other data so that it is easy to narrow down your selection process. If you select the part of the Ground region while it is visible in the Keep In selection, you are still selecting the entire ground point cloud region (hidden and visible parts) when you click on it and delete it, that is why it is gone when you do the Restore All because all that is doing is showing you the points that were hidden that are still left in the project.

     

    Hope that this answers the question

     

    If you want to "Delete Data" but be able to get it back, move it into a Point Cloud Region and hide it, do not delete it.

     

    Alan



  • 4.  Re: Pointcloud wont restore

    Posted 10-14-2020 21:26

    Thanks for Your answer @Alan Sharp. I can not for sure say that it earlier was possible to delete a region and then restore it again with the "restore button". So it could be something i just tried now. It can also be because i now have been trying to use Realworks and in realworks i can choose a part of a pointcloud and it gets stored as a new cloud and i can restore the original cloud wich gives me 2 clouds with the same thing. Maybe i am mixing this because they are so similar. The testing of realworks has done that i am using the functions in TBC quite different now. Thats fun!

     

    I will keep my fingers of the delete button.

     

    Have a nice day!



  • 5.  RE: Pointcloud wont restore

    Posted 04-04-2022 08:22
    Fredrik - if you select the default and right click> there is an option to restore all/unused 

    Alan


  • 6.  RE: Pointcloud wont restore

    Posted 05-27-2024 22:17

    Alan C! Thank you for posting this.  I had a project where I had 4 very large scan datasets all classified. I noticed an issue with one of the scan datasets and needed to re-import it.  I turned off all the other scans in the view filter manager and drew a box around all those Points. As a result it deleted a bunch of regions in including those in the turned off scan sets!  I hit the save button before was was going to start my re-import. I then noticed all the missingregions.  I was about to restart everything and lose the hours of work until I saw your post here.  I did not know about the "get unused points" which returned all my points. I lost the classification, but I was fine with that!  You saved the day.

    Anyhow, I learnt something new today. Thanks for your post!



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