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Fonts does not look the same, Word - TBC

  • 1.  Fonts does not look the same, Word - TBC

    Posted 07-18-2020 23:32

    Hi!

     

    Take a look at the picture here. When i change the fonts to thoose 2 i want to use (Kanit and Work Sans) they almost look the same and i cant make them bold and so on. When i use those fonts in my word documents they look good but not in TBC, anybody know why? 



  • 2.  Re: Fonts does not look the same, Word - TBC

    Posted 07-19-2020 08:40

    It does depend a bit on whether the font is a true type or a stroke type font - stroke fonts are more limited than true types in what you can do with them as they are designed for pen plotters rather than raster plotters. The stroke fonts "emulate fonts" whereas the true types are the real deal. True types will be slower to print and will at times slow down graphics vs stroke fonts which are going to be generally faster.

     

    In word the font may also not be width factor 1 - if you change that it will make the characters narrower or wider and more at say .8 they will better match what you see in Word. Many fonts are defined at 1 and then deployed at a sub 1 value. I guess in word you can find that out somewhere in the font settings.

     

    I have researched this now and will discuss with development tomorrow - however it seems that True Type Fonts that are installed by TBC are what you could refer to as Dynamic True Type Fonts - i.e. they are defined in such a way that you can change their properties dynamically, as opposed to static true type fonts where their properties are predefined. I looked in my installation of TBC and the two fonts you mentioned were not installed on my computer - so they must be Fonts that get installed by some other application or that you have downloaded from the web and installed manually. The Trimble Stroked fonts have an extension .fnt and are stored in \Programdata\Trimble\Fonts. The True Type Fonts are stored in C:\Windows\Fonts folder. If you download and install True Types in this folder (copy and paste or install a software that adds its own TTF files to this location then they will be picked up by TBC, however they may not be set up the way that TBC requires them. I tested the KANIT TTF file from Cadson in Denmark and I tested the Work Sans font from Google to see what they did. The Work Sans font from Google had both Static and Dynamic variants and I installed all of those (not a restart of Windows is required to pick them up). The Dynamic ones from Google were not listed in TBC, however the static ones were, however while each static variant was different to some degree, the bolding of the fonts (as defined on the cadson or google websites) was not there and I could not change Italic or Bold noticably on any of them in TBC. However the TBC Truetypes that are shipped and installed I believe (or are standard Windows True Types (need to check that) all seem to work and are adjustable for Bold and Italic. So the TBC team must do some magic or some True Types must be set up differently to others (so it appears that not all True Types are equal).

     

    I will try to find out more tomorrow when Development are back at work. 

     

    Alan



  • 3.  Re: Fonts does not look the same, Word - TBC

    Posted 07-19-2020 12:29

    Thanks Alan!

     

    Did you get it to work with the sketchup file in sitevision? 



  • 4.  Re: Fonts does not look the same, Word - TBC

    Posted 07-27-2020 23:14

    Did you get anymore info about this, if the fonts could be fixed? 



  • 5.  Re: Fonts does not look the same, Word - TBC

    Posted 07-28-2020 05:23

    Apologies - I have not had any response on this yet - I will come back when I hear something. It is holiday season right now so people are coming and going from development so not so easy to pin down responses where i need them

     

    Alan



  • 6.  Re: Fonts does not look the same, Word - TBC

    Posted 07-28-2020 21:01

    No problems, thanks for helping! 

    Have a great day.



  • 7.  Re: Fonts does not look the same, Word - TBC

    Posted 08-05-2020 18:30

    I has this issue with fonts in TBC which turned out that it was a windows install issue. Starting from Windows 1809 it was made possible to install fonts in the user directory. When the fonts are installed in this way for some reason TBC does not recognise them.

     

    To fix I uninstalled the relevant fonts, rebooted machine, checked registry settings and then re-installed fonts but right mouse clicked and installed "for all users". The fonts then appeared correctly in TBC.



  • 8.  Re: Fonts does not look the same, Word - TBC

    Posted 08-05-2020 19:37

    Good to know Peter -;I will check that out 

     

    Are you saying that they appeared in the TBC font list or that they appeared and drew correctly as well - Fred's issue was that they appeared in the list but drew incorrectly and you could not change properties Iike bold or italic etc.

     

    Let us know

     

    Alan



  • 9.  Re: Fonts does not look the same, Word - TBC

    Posted 08-19-2020 22:02

    Hi Alan,

     

    The issue that I had was exactly like Fred's the fonts appeared but drew incorrectly etc..

     

    Peter