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  • 1.  Surface offset

    Posted 08-21-2018 09:49

    Is there a way to offset a surface without having to create new surface members? 



  • 2.  Re: Surface offset

    Posted 10-03-2018 19:37

    Yes, basically.  You can use the MSI manager to create a depth for the offset, then assign a site improvement and then create a "subgrade" to form the new surface.  This is organized on the Machine Data tab.  If you don't have the Takeoff modules then I don't believe there is a way without, like you said, copying surface members.  



  • 3.  Re: Surface offset

    Posted 12-31-2019 05:53

    Also try:

    I think this is a stock TBC TML, but if not you can find it here.

     

    TMLs - Rockpile Solutions 



  • 4.  Re: Surface offset

    Posted 01-02-2020 12:38

    1-Creating a corridor using the surface

    2-Exlpode surface and then elevation change

    3-MSI site improvement 



  • 5.  Re: Surface offset

    Posted 01-02-2020 14:09

    In TBC under the Macros Tab there is a command to offset a surface.  I think that will do exactly what you want!

     

    Offset Surface



  • 6.  RE: Re: Surface offset

    Posted 01-06-2022 09:31
    I used to use the surface offset feature quite a bit, but I just noticed it's not on the menu anymore. Anyone know what's going on??



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    Tony Mugabe
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  • 7.  RE: Re: Surface offset

    Posted 01-07-2022 09:03
    Tony, the Offset Surface command is now located on the Surface ribbon in the "create" section.  Its one of the smaller icons.  Depending on your screen size it is probably bottom row second in from the end of the Create section.

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    Wayne Welshans
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  • 8.  RE: Re: Surface offset

    Posted 01-07-2022 09:22
    Thanks Wayne. I located the icon. Makes more sense to be located within the Surfaces tab. Cheers





  • 9.  Re: Surface offset

    Posted 01-02-2020 14:13

    One thing I notice and can not remember which one.  The triangulation of the offset surface does not match the original surface.  Just be sure to verify your offset surface and if needed make corrections.



  • 10.  Re: Surface offset

    Posted 01-03-2020 09:33

    The MSI tool is the method that changes the triangulation of the offset surface, but it is the most useful if you need to offset specific areas (especially if you have different offsets in different areas). This tool is indispensable if you have offsets that you may need to edit later. The offset result is usually pretty high-fidelity although I have encountered quirky behavior a couple of times. I usually create a cut/fill map between the original and offset surfaces. You can map specific colors to the offset values you've used to visually confirm the areas applied, and with "Smooth Transition" turned off in the color map you can maximize detection of offset errors. Also, if you have the "Coordinate Scroll" tool open and the cut/fill isopach selected you get a live reading of the offset under the mouse cursor.

     

    Another way to achieve surface offsets that hasn't been mentioned works similar to the "Explode Surface" macro: you can export your surface to a *.dxf or *.dwg file, and when you re-import it you will find it composed of 3D CAD faces which can be manipulated using the "Change Elevation" and other transform tools. Use the manipulated faces as members to create a new surface.

       -You can manually select the faces within areas of interest and apply specific offsets. I use selection sets or re-layering to sort regions. Note that each triangle edge overlaps any neighboring triangle edges, so simply applying a vertical shift to a subset of the triangles will produce flags along these edges; use the "Shrink3DFaces" command to eliminate this overlap.

       -Another thing you can do is use the "Convert to Linestring" macro to change these faces into normal linestrings which can then be edited in all the normal ways.