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TBC 5.0 Corridor problems not exporting the full template

  • 1.  TBC 5.0 Corridor problems not exporting the full template

    Posted 06-11-2020 13:59

    I am using TBC V5.0 (waiting on IT to approve an update). Trying to create a simple corridor of just tangent an offset 26' right and a side slope 1.8:1. I have my horizontal and vertical alignments everything looks perfect. 

     

    I can see my offset and side slopes when I use a comparative surface, but when I go to export using rxl INCLUDING templates its not spitting out my side slope command. I can see its right, i use side slope from my shoulder and fill slope with 1.8:1 ratio. Its exporting about a 4kb file when it should be 200kb. 

     

    I got it to work the other day forcing it to meet a surface but now i cant even make it do that because its creating a wierd grade break now when I am trying to stake in the field. 

     

    Is this a 5.0 glitch? Super clunky. i like this much better than C3D for construction calcs and really want to use it but this has me very frustrated. Its a very basic corridor and wont work, and it looks 100% correct on the cross section view.

     

    You should not need to force a comparative surface to get it to work, maybe its just this 5.0 version. Hope IT gets me on 5.3 today this is effing me. Manually slope staking not my cup of tea really chaps my ass.

     

    Thanks to all appreciate your help.  



  • 2.  Re: TBC 5.0 Corridor problems not exporting the full template

    Posted 06-11-2020 14:34

    Can you share the project so I can take a look. While I can create a simple example that follows the instructions that you are mentioning, it is better if I also have the alignment that you are using as well - then I can run the process. 

     

    RXL is not the greatest format for Road Staking in Access, you might want to try using the LandXML export for Access Road Strings or the Trimble Access Road Strings in GENIO format (especially for TBC v5.3 as those in my view are a better way to go for Road Staking with Access - RXL is always somewhat problematic because it is a cross section based format rather than a String or Model based format and that means that you have to slice up the Corridor and then check sections to make sure that adjacent sections are relatively close to each other in Geometry etc. 

     

    I can try to help with RXL but that is a Geospatial approach to this problem not a CEC approach - we use Terramodel PRO files for Roads or the new VCL formats in Siteworks and they are so much better and easier to manage and more flexible for Road Staking especially. The RXL questions should really go on the Geospatial Forum as the Geospatial Team are better equipped to answer those than me for example.

     

    I will try to help where I can but I strongly recommend looking at the Trimble Access Road Strings approach as an alternative. (it will depend on which version of access you are using also).

     

    Alan



  • 3.  Re: TBC 5.0 Corridor problems not exporting the full template

    Posted 06-11-2020 16:54

    I found something that worked. I created a surface down into the earth, forced my side slopes to target the surface and then did what you said and exported "Trimble Access Road Strings" and worked. 

     

    I am sure there is a way to fix and use RXL this but this will work just fine I dont care what it is just need station/offset and my side slopes.

     

    Thank you sir



  • 4.  Re: TBC 5.0 Corridor problems not exporting the full template

    Posted 06-11-2020 14:47

    I am using Access Field Software. i work at Red Dog Mine and they are 100% Trimble up here they have bunch of TBC licenses. My co-worker can make this program sing but he is busy. I really want to use this because I cant stand C3D for calcs unless its something simple. TBC is more Survey oriented. I would share the project but new to the forum and not sure how to do that. 

     

    I just started fresh no surface no nothing. Just brought in another project to keep my coordinate system same and imprted my 2 points for my alignment. Used 2 points off the plan and profile view on the Tailings Dam Plans, created a linestring at 991 elevation, went 26ft right for my shoulder then added a side slope command for 1.8:1 slope. Its all a tangent have not got the the arc portion of the project yet. Can manually slope stake I just want to learn this. 

     

    I have not tried your other suggestion yet i will do that. When using the export function on TBC its not giving me the side slope even though its programmed. 4kb file when its suppose to be way bigger, I am sure its because its not giving me the side slope. 

     

    I dont care if its an RXL I just want to be able to stake my catch and see station/offset with a design elevation while out in the field so i can stake proper lifts when live staking.

     

     



  • 5.  Re: TBC 5.0 Corridor problems not exporting the full template

    Posted 06-11-2020 14:49

    How do i share the project? Thank you sir for your response, much appreciated! This manually staking with calculator sucks. I did get it to work a couple days ago after messing with a ton of settings but perhaps I need to try the option you mentioned and not use RXL



  • 6.  Re: TBC 5.0 Corridor problems not exporting the full template

    Posted 06-11-2020 16:53

    I found something that worked. I created a surface down into the earth, forced my side slopes to target the surface and then did what you said and exported "Trimble Access Road Strings" and worked. 

     

    I am sure there is a way to fix and use RXL this but this will work just fine I dont care what it is just need station/offset and my side slopes.

     

    Thank you sir



  • 7.  Re: TBC 5.0 Corridor problems not exporting the full template

    Posted 06-11-2020 17:04

    Way to go - glad we got you hummin' along now

     

    Alan