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Hello,

I am experiencing a problem, which - at the moment - I am unable to explain/solve.

Brief description:

I created two new lines (in red color in the picture below) parallel to the bold black line using CAD command Offset Line.
The first red one has the offset of 0.7m from the bold black line and the second red line has the offset 15.7m from the bold black line.

Then, I created the point vk2 on the 2nd red line using CAD command CREATE POINT/Factor of line. I needed to project the point vk2 perpendicularly
on the 1st red line, so I used the CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE. The point vk1 was created using this function.

I checked the angle on the vk1 point (vk1 point is pivot point) and got the following result:

I expected there (with pivot point vk1) the right angle (90°00´00"), but as can be seen in the picture above, there is an angle value of 90°02´28".

Then, I checked this function separately creating 3 points, 2 of them I joined to a line and the 3rd point
I projected using the CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE to the created line. The 4th point was created on the line.
When I measured the angle there (with the 4th point on the line as pivot point), the angle value was exactly 90°00´00" as expected.

Has someone an idea, where could be the problem?

Martin Kalafut

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Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
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Hi Martin

I followed your instructions to replicate how you create points vk1 and vk2 in TBC and worked fine for me, got a 90 degree angle. See the attached image. Could no replicate the error that you got. Send me your .vce file then I will into it for you, if its possible to sent it to me.

Regards

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Albert Olivier
TBC Technical Product Manager
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-30-2022 05:12
From: Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
Subject: A problem with CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE (TBC v5.70.1)

Hello,

I am experiencing a problem, which - at the moment - I am unable to explain/solve.

Brief description:

I created two new lines (in red color in the picture below) parallel to the bold black line using CAD command Offset Line.
The first red one has the offset of 0.7m from the bold black line and the second red line has the offset 15.7m from the bold black line.

Then, I created the point vk2 on the 2nd red line using CAD command CREATE POINT/Factor of line. I needed to project the point vk2 perpendicularly
on the 1st red line, so I used the CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE. The point vk1 was created using this function.

I checked the angle on the vk1 point (vk1 point is pivot point) and got the following result:

I expected there (with pivot point vk1) the right angle (90°00´00"), but as can be seen in the picture above, there is an angle value of 90°02´28".

Then, I checked this function separately creating 3 points, 2 of them I joined to a line and the 3rd point
I projected using the CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE to the created line. The 4th point was created on the line.
When I measured the angle there (with the 4th point on the line as pivot point), the angle value was exactly 90°00´00" as expected.

Has someone an idea, where could be the problem?

Martin Kalafut

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Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
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Thanks Albert!

Should I attach the vce file here or send it to you by email (where)?

Martin

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Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-30-2022 06:53
From: Albert Olivier
Subject: A problem with CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE (TBC v5.70.1)

Hi Martin

I followed your instructions to replicate how you create points vk1 and vk2 in TBC and worked fine for me, got a 90 degree angle. See the attached image. Could no replicate the error that you got. Send me your .vce file then I will into it for you, if its possible to sent it to me.

Regards

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Albert Olivier
TBC Technical Product Manager

Original Message:
Sent: 09-30-2022 05:12
From: Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
Subject: A problem with CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE (TBC v5.70.1)

Hello,

I am experiencing a problem, which - at the moment - I am unable to explain/solve.

Brief description:

I created two new lines (in red color in the picture below) parallel to the bold black line using CAD command Offset Line.
The first red one has the offset of 0.7m from the bold black line and the second red line has the offset 15.7m from the bold black line.

Then, I created the point vk2 on the 2nd red line using CAD command CREATE POINT/Factor of line. I needed to project the point vk2 perpendicularly
on the 1st red line, so I used the CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE. The point vk1 was created using this function.

I checked the angle on the vk1 point (vk1 point is pivot point) and got the following result:

I expected there (with pivot point vk1) the right angle (90°00´00"), but as can be seen in the picture above, there is an angle value of 90°02´28".

Then, I checked this function separately creating 3 points, 2 of them I joined to a line and the 3rd point
I projected using the CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE to the created line. The 4th point was created on the line.
When I measured the angle there (with the 4th point on the line as pivot point), the angle value was exactly 90°00´00" as expected.

Has someone an idea, where could be the problem?

Martin Kalafut

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Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
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The problem may be caused by the fact that your line consists of several sections. Try it with Perpendicular to segment.

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Attila Tóth
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-30-2022 05:12
From: Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
Subject: A problem with CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE (TBC v5.70.1)

Hello,

I am experiencing a problem, which - at the moment - I am unable to explain/solve.

Brief description:

I created two new lines (in red color in the picture below) parallel to the bold black line using CAD command Offset Line.
The first red one has the offset of 0.7m from the bold black line and the second red line has the offset 15.7m from the bold black line.

Then, I created the point vk2 on the 2nd red line using CAD command CREATE POINT/Factor of line. I needed to project the point vk2 perpendicularly
on the 1st red line, so I used the CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE. The point vk1 was created using this function.

I checked the angle on the vk1 point (vk1 point is pivot point) and got the following result:

I expected there (with pivot point vk1) the right angle (90°00´00"), but as can be seen in the picture above, there is an angle value of 90°02´28".

Then, I checked this function separately creating 3 points, 2 of them I joined to a line and the 3rd point
I projected using the CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE to the created line. The 4th point was created on the line.
When I measured the angle there (with the 4th point on the line as pivot point), the angle value was exactly 90°00´00" as expected.

Has someone an idea, where could be the problem?

Martin Kalafut

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Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
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Attila,

Thanks for your tip!

In the meantime I deleted all overlapping lines, so there is really only ONE line.
It did not help.

When I tried your tip - perpendicular to segment - the result is the same (angle value is 90°02´28"). I am absolutely confused,
since in the same project - as I mentioned earlier in this conversation - I created three points few tens meters apart,
from two of them I created a line string, I projected the 3rd point perpendicularly on the created string, the 4th point was placed on the line string
and when I measured the angle on the 4th point as pivot point - the angle is exactly 90°00´00" as it should be.

Simply - I have no idea how to proceed.

Martin

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Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-03-2022 03:05
From: Attila Tóth
Subject: A problem with CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE (TBC v5.70.1)

The problem may be caused by the fact that your line consists of several sections. Try it with Perpendicular to segment.

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Attila Tóth

Original Message:
Sent: 09-30-2022 05:12
From: Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
Subject: A problem with CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE (TBC v5.70.1)

Hello,

I am experiencing a problem, which - at the moment - I am unable to explain/solve.

Brief description:

I created two new lines (in red color in the picture below) parallel to the bold black line using CAD command Offset Line.
The first red one has the offset of 0.7m from the bold black line and the second red line has the offset 15.7m from the bold black line.

Then, I created the point vk2 on the 2nd red line using CAD command CREATE POINT/Factor of line. I needed to project the point vk2 perpendicularly
on the 1st red line, so I used the CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE. The point vk1 was created using this function.

I checked the angle on the vk1 point (vk1 point is pivot point) and got the following result:

I expected there (with pivot point vk1) the right angle (90°00´00"), but as can be seen in the picture above, there is an angle value of 90°02´28".

Then, I checked this function separately creating 3 points, 2 of them I joined to a line and the 3rd point
I projected using the CAD command CREATE POINT/PERPENDICULAR TO LINE to the created line. The 4th point was created on the line.
When I measured the angle there (with the 4th point on the line as pivot point), the angle value was exactly 90°00´00" as expected.

Has someone an idea, where could be the problem?

Martin Kalafut

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Martin Kalafut (Secondary email
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