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Could someone please look at adding 12da files to the referenced project files.

And is there any reason why Trimble Access Doesn't use a Trimble native file like VCL? It would be good to have one file that supports lines, circle, alignments, surfaces, points, attributes but retains name and layering. 

thanks, in advance.

Hi Peter,

Have you tried the .trb (Trimble BIM) export from TBC? Its hidden under the Export → Construction Tab → Site Vision AR Exporter.

Seem to work well getting 12d and TBC attributes back into Access. We have been using this for the purpose of getting asbuilt attributes back out into the field for stakeout:

Seems to work well for line names / layers / arcs / circles however doesn't seem to work for surfaces / alignments yet (try .xml / .ttm / 12da for that).

Dont think you will ever get a 12da as a reference file. Reference file command is for sharing between TBC (.vce) files - similar to how Terramodel works. 

Alternatively, you can just drag and drop a 12da/12daz directly into TBC  very easily!

Hope this helps.

Ed

Could someone please look at adding 12da files to the referenced project files.

And is there any reason why Trimble Access Doesn't use a Trimble native file like VCL? It would be good to have one file that supports lines, circle, alignments, surfaces, points, attributes but retains name and layering. 

thanks, in advance.

thanks Edward,

I've been using this for exporting 3d shapes like structures and pits and pipe. the only thing I don't like is it renames all entities to TRB0000 as you select in TA and shows on the as-staked info. so its hard to look back at what was actual staked out. i was looking for the automation from using TSM with the cappabilites of the 12da (which is already handled in TA).

thanks

Hi Peter,

Have you tried the .trb (Trimble BIM) export from TBC? Its hidden under the Export → Construction Tab → Site Vision AR Exporter.

Seem to work well getting 12d and TBC attributes back into Access. We have been using this for the purpose of getting asbuilt attributes back out into the field for stakeout:

Seems to work well for line names / layers / arcs / circles however doesn't seem to work for surfaces / alignments yet (try .xml / .ttm / 12da for that).

Dont think you will ever get a 12da as a reference file. Reference file command is for sharing between TBC (.vce) files - similar to how Terramodel works. 

Alternatively, you can just drag and drop a 12da/12daz directly into TBC  very easily!

Hope this helps.

Ed

Could someone please look at adding 12da files to the referenced project files.

And is there any reason why Trimble Access Doesn't use a Trimble native file like VCL? It would be good to have one file that supports lines, circle, alignments, surfaces, points, attributes but retains name and layering. 

thanks, in advance.

Ah ok. That does make it hard to track as staked info.

I have been moving away from the TSM and to Trimble connect. Has been more stable and much faster on large projects. I have found it behaves more like one drive in that you can nominate a one-way sync so that field crews can't delete or change the field files required - Just log in in to Trimble connect sync on the TSC7 and automatically get all office changes (download only has to be selected in Trimble Connect Sync).

thanks Edward,

I've been using this for exporting 3d shapes like structures and pits and pipe. the only thing I don't like is it renames all entities to TRB0000 as you select in TA and shows on the as-staked info. so its hard to look back at what was actual staked out. i was looking for the automation from using TSM with the cappabilites of the 12da (which is already handled in TA).

thanks

Hi Peter,

Have you tried the .trb (Trimble BIM) export from TBC? Its hidden under the Export → Construction Tab → Site Vision AR Exporter.

Seem to work well getting 12d and TBC attributes back into Access. We have been using this for the purpose of getting asbuilt attributes back out into the field for stakeout:

Seems to work well for line names / layers / arcs / circles however doesn't seem to work for surfaces / alignments yet (try .xml / .ttm / 12da for that).

Dont think you will ever get a 12da as a reference file. Reference file command is for sharing between TBC (.vce) files - similar to how Terramodel works. 

Alternatively, you can just drag and drop a 12da/12daz directly into TBC  very easily!

Hope this helps.

Ed

Could someone please look at adding 12da files to the referenced project files.

And is there any reason why Trimble Access Doesn't use a Trimble native file like VCL? It would be good to have one file that supports lines, circle, alignments, surfaces, points, attributes but retains name and layering. 

thanks, in advance.

Hello Both,

Trimble Access does have inbuilt sync functions which are more integrated than Connect Sync.

Edward,

Are you using Connect Sync on the data controllers to ensure a common sync method for both Siteworks and Trimble Access devices or is there something missing from the Trimble Access feature set?

Ah ok. That does make it hard to track as staked info.

I have been moving away from the TSM and to Trimble connect. Has been more stable and much faster on large projects. I have found it behaves more like one drive in that you can nominate a one-way sync so that field crews can't delete or change the field files required - Just log in in to Trimble connect sync on the TSC7 and automatically get all office changes (download only has to be selected in Trimble Connect Sync).

thanks Edward,

I've been using this for exporting 3d shapes like structures and pits and pipe. the only thing I don't like is it renames all entities to TRB0000 as you select in TA and shows on the as-staked info. so its hard to look back at what was actual staked out. i was looking for the automation from using TSM with the cappabilites of the 12da (which is already handled in TA).

thanks

Hi Peter,

Have you tried the .trb (Trimble BIM) export from TBC? Its hidden under the Export → Construction Tab → Site Vision AR Exporter.

Seem to work well getting 12d and TBC attributes back into Access. We have been using this for the purpose of getting asbuilt attributes back out into the field for stakeout:

Seems to work well for line names / layers / arcs / circles however doesn't seem to work for surfaces / alignments yet (try .xml / .ttm / 12da for that).

Dont think you will ever get a 12da as a reference file. Reference file command is for sharing between TBC (.vce) files - similar to how Terramodel works. 

Alternatively, you can just drag and drop a 12da/12daz directly into TBC  very easily!

Hope this helps.

Ed

Could someone please look at adding 12da files to the referenced project files.

And is there any reason why Trimble Access Doesn't use a Trimble native file like VCL? It would be good to have one file that supports lines, circle, alignments, surfaces, points, attributes but retains name and layering. 

thanks, in advance.

Could someone please look at adding 12da files to the referenced project files.

And is there any reason why Trimble Access Doesn't use a Trimble native file like VCL? It would be good to have one file that supports lines, circle, alignments, surfaces, points, attributes but retains name and layering. 

thanks, in advance.

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Peter Batson
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Hello Peter,

If you upload the 12da file into Trimble Connect then it will be available for selection for download and use through Trimble Access layer manager.

I believe you mean allow a 12da file to be selected (to appear in layer manger) in the TSM "Create a Job" form as opposed to upload a 12da file to Connect using the TSM "Create a job" or TSM Properties-Reference form.

The upload to Connect part works, 12da must have been missed as a Trimble Access supported file type for TSM selection to appear in layer manager.

We are currently exploring moving TSM specific functionality such as "create a job" into the Connect web browser so could you give me an indication of how important it is to fully preconfigure the job using TSM. I can then assess if we should do an additional TSM release with this requested feature in it.

Thanks and Regards

Chay

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Chay Froggatt

Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2023 19:40
From: Peter Batson
Subject: Feature Request - 12da in Trimble Sync Manager

Could someone please look at adding 12da files to the referenced project files.

And is there any reason why Trimble Access Doesn't use a Trimble native file like VCL? It would be good to have one file that supports lines, circle, alignments, surfaces, points, attributes but retains name and layering. 

thanks, in advance.

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Peter Batson
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At the moment I've been using this (see image). because it auto downloads to all controllers assigned to the project. and doesn't leave it up to the field crew to be checking / missing new files all the time. 

with the move of TSM to Connect. would there be a way to select that must be downloaded to the controller?

regards

Hello Peter,

If you upload the 12da file into Trimble Connect then it will be available for selection for download and use through Trimble Access layer manager.

I believe you mean allow a 12da file to be selected (to appear in layer manger) in the TSM "Create a Job" form as opposed to upload a 12da file to Connect using the TSM "Create a job" or TSM Properties-Reference form.

The upload to Connect part works, 12da must have been missed as a Trimble Access supported file type for TSM selection to appear in layer manager.

We are currently exploring moving TSM specific functionality such as "create a job" into the Connect web browser so could you give me an indication of how important it is to fully preconfigure the job using TSM. I can then assess if we should do an additional TSM release with this requested feature in it.

Thanks and Regards

Chay

------------------------------
Chay Froggatt

Original Message:
Sent: 10-09-2023 19:40
From: Peter Batson
Subject: Feature Request - 12da in Trimble Sync Manager

Could someone please look at adding 12da files to the referenced project files.

And is there any reason why Trimble Access Doesn't use a Trimble native file like VCL? It would be good to have one file that supports lines, circle, alignments, surfaces, points, attributes but retains name and layering. 

thanks, in advance.

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Peter Batson
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