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Just wanted to create a general discussion about the usability of V5.70. Are there any major issues or bugs that made anyone downgrade? I used it slightly but then downgraded as I would have to have my entire team upgrade to make things run smooth and wasn't sure if I was ready for issues for all of us.

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Adam Bower
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Same here, I'd love to know how are 5.70 users faring.

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Marian
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I am not recommending upgrading to TBC 5.70 way too many bugs and broken commands.

I am running 5.60.2 and 5.70.

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Ron Ciccarone
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I'm finding a number of bugs too - I think a downgrade might be a smart move for me while these get worked out

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Stevie McCafferty
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I am with the others. I play with 5.7 but there are to many bugs and broken commands to depend on it. Waiting for the next update.

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Charles Wilt
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It's very unfortunate that Trimble can't put together a release that we can rely on. I'm thankful for the progress on additional features though. Just doesn't feel good when it seems like we're doing the beta testing. Any specific issues you're finding. Trimble will need to know.

Anyone else try to install multiple versions? I did what I normally do to install multiple versions and it wasn't working for me this time.

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Adam Bower
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-20-2022 09:42
From: Charles Wilt
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

I am with the others. I play with 5.7 but there are to many bugs and broken commands to depend on it. Waiting for the next update.

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Charles Wilt
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Original Message:
Sent: 6/20/2022 6:53:00 PM
From: Adam Bower
Subject: RE: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

It's very unfortunate that Trimble can't put together a release that we can rely on. I'm thankful for the progress on additional features though. Just doesn't feel good when it seems like we're doing the beta testing. Any specific issues you're finding. Trimble will need to know.

Anyone else try to install multiple versions? I did what I normally do to install multiple versions and it wasn't working for me this time.

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Adam Bower
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I made the mistake of installing 5.7 without keeping the 5.6 version. In the end everything needed to be removed. Then install 5.6 and rename. Followed by the 5.7 install.

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Charles Wilt
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-20-2022 15:53
From: Adam Bower
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

It's very unfortunate that Trimble can't put together a release that we can rely on. I'm thankful for the progress on additional features though. Just doesn't feel good when it seems like we're doing the beta testing. Any specific issues you're finding. Trimble will need to know.

Anyone else try to install multiple versions? I did what I normally do to install multiple versions and it wasn't working for me this time.

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Adam Bower
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-20-2022 09:42
From: Charles Wilt
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

I am with the others. I play with 5.7 but there are to many bugs and broken commands to depend on it. Waiting for the next update.

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Charles Wilt

FYI, as shown on the information about this forum, Trimble wants bugs to be sent to your Trimble vendor to pass along instead of posted here.  Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum.

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Robert Hoy
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then, why does this website not have a complaint box where we can just summit our problems straight to Trimble.  why go around when we should be able to straight to the source.  or even inside TBC, that give us an option to send out errors.  As long as we are signed in to our Trimble ID.

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Francisco Guerrero
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-21-2022 07:29
From: Robert Hoy
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

FYI, as shown on the information about this forum, Trimble wants bugs to be sent to your Trimble vendor to pass along instead of posted here.  Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum.

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Robert Hoy
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Great input!
When i get an error wich probably is a bug i write in the forum to get help of solving it, i dont do it for informing Trimble of the problem. I have a job to do and i dont have the time to post in the forum about bugs a can find my own work around for. BUT, if there was possible do report stuff from inside TBC with text/video and posting a screendump i would do that. It would be fast and easy.

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Fredrik Bergstrom
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-22-2022 05:13
From: Francisco Guerrero
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

then, why does this website not have a complaint box where we can just summit our problems straight to Trimble.  why go around when we should be able to straight to the source.  or even inside TBC, that give us an option to send out errors.  As long as we are signed in to our Trimble ID.

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Francisco Guerrero
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-21-2022 07:29
From: Robert Hoy
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

FYI, as shown on the information about this forum, Trimble wants bugs to be sent to your Trimble vendor to pass along instead of posted here.  Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum.

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Robert Hoy

That would mean that i should spend my time, unpaid, reporting to sitech here in Sweden and do a explanation about the problem. They will send this to trimble somwhere and will probably come back to me with more questions about my problem such as my type of computer, did a run cleaup prior to installation and stuff. Thats not why i pay 15.000$ per year to Trimble, to help out for free. I am posting my bugs on the forum is when i cant find my own workaround.

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Fredrik Bergstrom
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-21-2022 07:29
From: Robert Hoy
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

FYI, as shown on the information about this forum, Trimble wants bugs to be sent to your Trimble vendor to pass along instead of posted here.  Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum.

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Robert Hoy
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Robert: I don't have the time to waste informing my local Sitech/geospatial reseller about bugs. That is just another layer of "lets ignore this" that I don't need. When (not if) I find a bug in every new release I try on my own to find a workaround. If that fails I post here to get other dedicated users to help. Together we generally solve things here.

Of all the high end software I use on a daily basis Trimble is the least responsive to bugs, or feature requests etc. I don't need to be asked by a rep who knows less about the day to day use of TBC  if I have run the cleanup and reinstalled (should I ever have to do this!?!?), plugged it in, or rebooted my computer.


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Marshall Cant
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-21-2022 07:29
From: Robert Hoy
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

FYI, as shown on the information about this forum, Trimble wants bugs to be sent to your Trimble vendor to pass along instead of posted here.  Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum.

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Robert Hoy
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Word!

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Fredrik Bergstrom
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-22-2022 10:49
From: Marshall Cant
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

Robert: I don't have the time to waste informing my local Sitech/geospatial reseller about bugs. That is just another layer of "lets ignore this" that I don't need. When (not if) I find a bug in every new release I try on my own to find a workaround. If that fails I post here to get other dedicated users to help. Together we generally solve things here.

Of all the high end software I use on a daily basis Trimble is the least responsive to bugs, or feature requests etc. I don't need to be asked by a rep who knows less about the day to day use of TBC  if I have run the cleanup and reinstalled (should I ever have to do this!?!?), plugged it in, or rebooted my computer.


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Marshall Cant
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-21-2022 07:29
From: Robert Hoy
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

FYI, as shown on the information about this forum, Trimble wants bugs to be sent to your Trimble vendor to pass along instead of posted here.  Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum.

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Robert Hoy

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Richard Tyndall
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-22-2022 10:49
From: Marshall Cant
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

Robert: I don't have the time to waste informing my local Sitech/geospatial reseller about bugs. That is just another layer of "lets ignore this" that I don't need. When (not if) I find a bug in every new release I try on my own to find a workaround. If that fails I post here to get other dedicated users to help. Together we generally solve things here.

Of all the high end software I use on a daily basis Trimble is the least responsive to bugs, or feature requests etc. I don't need to be asked by a rep who knows less about the day to day use of TBC  if I have run the cleanup and reinstalled (should I ever have to do this!?!?), plugged it in, or rebooted my computer.


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Marshall Cant
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-21-2022 07:29
From: Robert Hoy
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

FYI, as shown on the information about this forum, Trimble wants bugs to be sent to your Trimble vendor to pass along instead of posted here.  Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum.

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Robert Hoy

"Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum."  I have serious doubts about them EVER seeing ANYTHING that's posted here. Or it could be that they'd rather not have a potential customer researching the software to have the majority of search results be unresolved bug reports from 6 years ago...



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steve schuler
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-21-2022 07:29
From: Robert Hoy
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

FYI, as shown on the information about this forum, Trimble wants bugs to be sent to your Trimble vendor to pass along instead of posted here.  Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum.

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Robert Hoy
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Steve: The really sad part is that this forum is filled with dedicated users who care about the product. (Although it seems there are far less users since the "new" forum started). There are folks here who really know their sh*t when it comes to TBC.  Sadly,  Trimble doesn't seem to see it as a resource.


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Marshall Cant
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-22-2022 22:57
From: steve schuler
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

"Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum."  I have serious doubts about them EVER seeing ANYTHING that's posted here. Or it could be that they'd rather not have a potential customer researching the software to have the majority of search results be unresolved bug reports from 6 years ago...



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steve schuler
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-21-2022 07:29
From: Robert Hoy
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

FYI, as shown on the information about this forum, Trimble wants bugs to be sent to your Trimble vendor to pass along instead of posted here.  Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum.

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Robert Hoy

Original Message:
Sent: 6/23/2022 11:00:00 AM
From: Marshall Cant
Subject: RE: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

Steve: The really sad part is that this forum is filled with dedicated users who care about the product. (Although it seems there are far less users since the "new" forum started). There are folks here who really know their sh*t when it comes to TBC.  Sadly,  Trimble doesn't seem to see it as a resource.


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Marshall Cant
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-22-2022 22:57
From: steve schuler
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

"Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum."  I have serious doubts about them EVER seeing ANYTHING that's posted here. Or it could be that they'd rather not have a potential customer researching the software to have the majority of search results be unresolved bug reports from 6 years ago...



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steve schuler
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Original Message:
Sent: 6/23/2022 11:00:00 AM
From: Marshall Cant
Subject: RE: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

Steve: The really sad part is that this forum is filled with dedicated users who care about the product. (Although it seems there are far less users since the "new" forum started). There are folks here who really know their sh*t when it comes to TBC.  Sadly,  Trimble doesn't seem to see it as a resource.


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Marshall Cant
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-22-2022 22:57
From: steve schuler
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

"Probably since they won't see all posts in this forum."  I have serious doubts about them EVER seeing ANYTHING that's posted here. Or it could be that they'd rather not have a potential customer researching the software to have the majority of search results be unresolved bug reports from 6 years ago...



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steve schuler
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It is like relearning the whole program every time they have a "Major Update".  The development team must not debug anything.  I was just switching most of my data prep workflows over to Vertical Design and now using the tool IS ABSOLUTELY PAINFULL!!!

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Matt Voge
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Hi Matt!

Could you please specify what are the problems with Vertical Design?

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Markku Alanko
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-22-2022 11:46
From: Matt Voge
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

It is like relearning the whole program every time they have a "Major Update".  The development team must not debug anything.  I was just switching most of my data prep workflows over to Vertical Design and now using the tool IS ABSOLUTELY PAINFULL!!!

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Matt Voge
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Matt, could you contact me directly
markku.alanko@trimble.com

Thanks,

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Markku Alanko
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-22-2022 11:46
From: Matt Voge
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

It is like relearning the whole program every time they have a "Major Update".  The development team must not debug anything.  I was just switching most of my data prep workflows over to Vertical Design and now using the tool IS ABSOLUTELY PAINFULL!!!

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Matt Voge
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Hello @Markku Alanko - one annoying issue is, every time the Edit VD command is called by the user, the Vertical Design layer turns off. Then, the only way to get the rules to show is to, of course, turn the layer back on having first switched back to the View Filter, and then rebuild the VD. That's a lot of steps before making any edits. It seems pretty simple but this becomes very very tedious and a production zapping process when many edits are required.  Thanks​

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Richard Tyndall
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-23-2022 10:39
From: Markku Alanko
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

Matt, could you contact me directly
markku.alanko@trimble.com

Thanks,

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Markku Alanko
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-22-2022 11:46
From: Matt Voge
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

It is like relearning the whole program every time they have a "Major Update".  The development team must not debug anything.  I was just switching most of my data prep workflows over to Vertical Design and now using the tool IS ABSOLUTELY PAINFULL!!!

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Matt Voge

Turns out I missed a setting in the Properties Pane. Setting the property to yes eliminates the annoying behavior of the rules layer shutting off every time the Edit VD command is selected. 
Thanks @Ed Levandoski and SiTech MetroNorthEast.

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Richard Tyndall
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-23-2022 13:32
From: Richard Tyndall
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

Hello @Markku Alanko - one annoying issue is, every time the Edit VD command is called by the user, the Vertical Design layer turns off. Then, the only way to get the rules to show is to, of course, turn the layer back on having first switched back to the View Filter, and then rebuild the VD. That's a lot of steps before making any edits. It seems pretty simple but this becomes very very tedious and a production zapping process when many edits are required.  Thanks​

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Richard Tyndall
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Original Message:
Sent: 06-23-2022 10:39
From: Markku Alanko
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

Matt, could you contact me directly
markku.alanko@trimble.com

Thanks,

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Markku Alanko


Original Message:
Sent: 06-22-2022 11:46
From: Matt Voge
Subject: How is V5.70 doing for everybody?

It is like relearning the whole program every time they have a "Major Update".  The development team must not debug anything.  I was just switching most of my data prep workflows over to Vertical Design and now using the tool IS ABSOLUTELY PAINFULL!!!

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Matt Voge