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No displayed heights in 3D view

  • 1.  No displayed heights in 3D view

    Posted 07-30-2024 08:13
    Good morning
    For a long time I have been wondering what is the problem in order to make available in 3D view a preview of XYZ place and especially height, without making 3D surface/. The simplest CAD programs have such a function and TBC does not. Unless it is and I do not know where to enable /:) 


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    Tomasz Gut
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  • 2.  RE: No displayed heights in 3D view

    Posted 07-30-2024 09:55

    I cannot tell what you are wanting to do.



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    Robert Hoy
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  • 3.  RE: No displayed heights in 3D view

    Posted 07-31-2024 00:06

    ... ok, it's simpler, in 3d view moving the cursor over the point cloud doesn't display the coordinates of the pointing location....
    To get this data you need to create a surface , because on it this information shows up .... is time consuming and it would be easier to get this data directly from the point cloud



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    Tomasz Gut
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  • 4.  RE: No displayed heights in 3D view

    Posted 07-31-2024 01:05
    Edited by Ronny Schneider 07-31-2024 01:11

    Not as convenient as just moving the cursor over a surface, you have to click at least. But works in plan-view and 3D-view.

    The on-screen text color and especially without whiteout is pretty crap though, but you have the value in the top right corner in the tool itself.



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    Ronny Schneider
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  • 5.  RE: No displayed heights in 3D view

    Posted 07-31-2024 03:15

    Thanks, these options I know... but it's probably worth thinking about and improving these features in the next TBC update



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    Tomasz Gut
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  • 6.  RE: No displayed heights in 3D view

    Posted 07-31-2024 03:58

    Sorry mate, but I nearly choked on my dinner while laughing. Hell will probably freeze over before that's gonna be improved with the next update.

    There are so many improvements on the backlog list which we are begging for since years.

    Although, it's got something to do with point clouds and maybe they can stick the AI label on it and make a whole new feature out of it. "New" looks always good on the announcements. Better than "after 6 years we did find a way to plot text as text, whiteout is plotted correctly, improve the layer manager, improve the surface manager, have a correct working view priority from start to finish .................................................."



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    Ronny Schneider
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  • 7.  RE: No displayed heights in 3D view

    Posted 07-31-2024 04:15

    heheh... that it was so bad with this TBC I didn't know.
    Since I've only been working extensively with TBC for a year now, so it's only now that things are coming out that bother me a lot and the list is getting longer.... And since you write that you guys have been struggling with the issue for years it doesn't bode well and I guess you will have to equip yourself with Chinese replacement software :) 



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    Tomasz Gut
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  • 8.  RE: No displayed heights in 3D view

    Posted 08-01-2024 23:13

    In my opinion, this cannot work. There can be several points in a row in the 3D view. Which point should the software use if you don't click?



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    Titus Emanuel

    SITECH Germany, digital engineering services
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  • 9.  RE: No displayed heights in 3D view

    Posted 08-02-2024 00:37
    Edited by Ronny Schneider 08-02-2024 00:49

    For a terrestrial surface scan as it's requested here and probably only in plan-view it's unlikely that you'd have point layers on top of each other.

    It's just a matter of filtering the results, for instance use the first one in the line of sight, or you'd have to turn on a limit box, or "NEW" feature have an AI limit box follow the mouse pointer.

    (Or simpler move/recenter the limit box when using the right mouse button plus an "action" key, snapping to the cloud point under the mouse cursor.)

    It's mainly coming down to retrieving the 3D information of the points surrounding your mouse pointer fast enough. Comparing a coordinate against each and every cloud point would take too long. It needs to be structured in some way, tree or voxels.

    Again, as mentioned so often before, I'd like to see a proper documentation of the SDK, in this case the scan database.

    A while ago and as a play around I tried to recreate something that I saw one of our geologists do in their software. He had a SX10 scan of a fractured rockface from me (10-20 million points). He was moving his mouse pointer around in the 3D view, with the mouse wheel he could define the search radius around the tip and the software was computing a best fit plane into the cloud points that fell into that radius, on the fly in real time. He had to go through the whole wall and categorize each and every crack/fault/different angle whatever, and from that they compute an integrity model.

    Never say never. It's just a matter of wanting to and visual representation.



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    Ronny Schneider
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