Trimble Business Center

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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Yeah snaps still suck overall. Vector PDF nodes only work if you select the check box when you georeference a vector PDF. Then they'll work

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Adam Bower
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

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Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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Charlie, try zooming in close where there is a point next to the line. I know exactly what Matthew is talking about. I feel like it's normally when you're zoomed in closer.

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Adam Bower
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 13:56
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

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Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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I'll screen record what I mean when I get a minute, try snapping to vertices along a surface member as if you were trying to create breaklines, near point doesn't take priority over the end point snap (and i think mid point) which is why your not seeing the issue. I should have clarified that. I've noticed the bug when trying to snap onto vertices and points that are either directly on or very close to a line.  

I'm running the same version, 5.81.

As far as the vector pdf snaps, I thought it was supposed to allow snaps to vector pdf data all the time instead of just being a toggle option that's only used when georeferencing.

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Matthew Judice
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 13:56
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

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Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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There is a new option to select when you georeference a PDF. If you don't check that, it wont allow vector PDF snaps. If you have already georeferenced that PDF, just do it again and then select the option to use vector snaps. Then that PDF becomes snappable (if that's a word).

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Adam Bower
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 15:15
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

I'll screen record what I mean when I get a minute, try snapping to vertices along a surface member as if you were trying to create breaklines, near point doesn't take priority over the end point snap (and i think mid point) which is why your not seeing the issue. I should have clarified that. I've noticed the bug when trying to snap onto vertices and points that are either directly on or very close to a line.  

I'm running the same version, 5.81.

As far as the vector pdf snaps, I thought it was supposed to allow snaps to vector pdf data all the time instead of just being a toggle option that's only used when georeferencing.

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Matthew Judice

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 13:56
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

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Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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Oh that makes more sense, I'll try that out.

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Matthew Judice
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 15:19
From: Adam Bower
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

There is a new option to select when you georeference a PDF. If you don't check that, it wont allow vector PDF snaps. If you have already georeferenced that PDF, just do it again and then select the option to use vector snaps. Then that PDF becomes snappable (if that's a word).

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Adam Bower

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 15:15
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

I'll screen record what I mean when I get a minute, try snapping to vertices along a surface member as if you were trying to create breaklines, near point doesn't take priority over the end point snap (and i think mid point) which is why your not seeing the issue. I should have clarified that. I've noticed the bug when trying to snap onto vertices and points that are either directly on or very close to a line.  

I'm running the same version, 5.81.

As far as the vector pdf snaps, I thought it was supposed to allow snaps to vector pdf data all the time instead of just being a toggle option that's only used when georeferencing.

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Matthew Judice

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 13:56
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

------------------------------
Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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The nodes from the vector pdf are extracted and saved when the image is georeferenced.

If you have an old VCE file (so no nodes extracted), just georeference the image again. You don't need to change any of the reference coordinantes.

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Gary Lantaff
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 15:15
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

I'll screen record what I mean when I get a minute, try snapping to vertices along a surface member as if you were trying to create breaklines, near point doesn't take priority over the end point snap (and i think mid point) which is why your not seeing the issue. I should have clarified that. I've noticed the bug when trying to snap onto vertices and points that are either directly on or very close to a line.  

I'm running the same version, 5.81.

As far as the vector pdf snaps, I thought it was supposed to allow snaps to vector pdf data all the time instead of just being a toggle option that's only used when georeferencing.

------------------------------
Matthew Judice

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 13:56
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

------------------------------
Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

------------------------------
Matthew Judice
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Matthew Judice
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 13:56
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

------------------------------
Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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Mr. Judice,

Can you provide me with the data you're using so that I can duplicate it on my end to add to a ticket for engineering to review?

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Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 16:31
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Charlie,

This is the issue I'm experiencing, I can't reliably snap onto a vertex or point along a line if the near point snap is enabled, regardless of the near point snap mode's priority. 

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Matthew Judice

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 13:56
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

------------------------------
Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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You mean the project file? It's not exclusive to any project in particular, happens with any lines on any project I work on. Are you not able to replicate it? If it isn't an issue for you maybe I should try a clean install of TBC? 


Edit: Also the pdf vector data snap works fine, I didn't know about the new option that had to be enabled. Thanks all I've been wanting that feature for years, going to save me a ton of time.
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Matthew Judice
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-10-2023 14:23
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

Can you provide me with the data you're using so that I can duplicate it on my end to add to a ticket for engineering to review?

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Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 16:31
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Charlie,

This is the issue I'm experiencing, I can't reliably snap onto a vertex or point along a line if the near point snap is enabled, regardless of the near point snap mode's priority. 

------------------------------
Matthew Judice

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 13:56
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

------------------------------
Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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Correct. I can't replicate what your GIF shows. If you could provide me the project file (archived with the data folder) I can try to replicate it.

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Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2023 09:13
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

You mean the project file? It's not exclusive to any project in particular, happens with any lines on any project I work on. Are you not able to replicate it?

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Matthew Judice

Original Message:
Sent: 01-10-2023 14:23
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

Can you provide me with the data you're using so that I can duplicate it on my end to add to a ticket for engineering to review?

------------------------------
Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 16:31
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Charlie,

This is the issue I'm experiencing, I can't reliably snap onto a vertex or point along a line if the near point snap is enabled, regardless of the near point snap mode's priority. 

------------------------------
Matthew Judice

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 13:56
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

------------------------------
Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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The archived file can be downloaded from OneDrive here: 230111 Love's Rest Stop.zip

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Matthew Judice
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Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2023 09:19
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Correct. I can't replicate what your GIF shows. If you could provide me the project file (archived with the data folder) I can try to replicate it.

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Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-11-2023 09:13
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

You mean the project file? It's not exclusive to any project in particular, happens with any lines on any project I work on. Are you not able to replicate it?

------------------------------
Matthew Judice

Original Message:
Sent: 01-10-2023 14:23
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

Can you provide me with the data you're using so that I can duplicate it on my end to add to a ticket for engineering to review?

------------------------------
Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 16:31
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Charlie,

This is the issue I'm experiencing, I can't reliably snap onto a vertex or point along a line if the near point snap is enabled, regardless of the near point snap mode's priority. 

------------------------------
Matthew Judice

Original Message:
Sent: 01-09-2023 13:56
From: Charlie Sorg
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

Mr. Judice,

I'm having a hard time recreating what you're seeing. Which version of TBC are you using when this occurs? The below GIF shows me using default snaps, but with Near Point additionally toggled on in its default heirarchal position in the snaps list. This is the public 5.81 build. If you could send me the data, exact snap settings, and exact steps to follow to see the same behavior, I may have a better chance of duplicating your findings. Similarly, I have no issues with the PDF snaps. Perhaps Mr. Bower's suggestion is the cause?

------------------------------
Charlie Sorg
Product Owner
Trimble Business Center, CIS

Original Message:
Sent: 01-06-2023 15:26
From: Matthew Judice
Subject: Running Snaps Still Broken?

The near point snap mode always takes priority, even when set to the bottom of the list. Makes it impossible to select vertices or points along a line if the near snap mode is enabled. Is this a known issue? Any workarounds? 

Also the Vector PDF nodes option doesn't seem to do anything, am I missing something?

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Matthew Judice
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