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Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

  • 1.  Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 08-02-2019 07:09

    I recently tried to load a site with siteworks that was using a GEOID for the first time. 

    This is the error I'm getting. 

     

    I loaded the site in SCS900 and it loaded just fine. I also tried it on the emulator and it seemed to load it just fine too.

    Has anyone else ran into this problem?



  • 2.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 08-02-2019 10:38

    This comes up when I try to create my own site with a coordinate system.

    Here is the link to the log file

    https://rackstation.whitcon.us:5001/sharing/wqyFJulaZ 



  • 3.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 08-02-2019 15:45

    I have shared with Steve DiBenedetto the Product Manager for SCS900 and Siteworks to see if he can shine a light on this (if we dont hear from him Monday I will chase this down when I am in office on Monday

     

    Alan



  • 4.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 08-02-2019 16:58

    Thanks Alan!

     

    On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 4:46 PM alan_sharp@trimble.com <trimble@jiveon.com>



  • 5.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 08-05-2019 07:43

    Hi there.

     

    Please ensure that you have the correct GGF file in the C:\Trimble Synchronizer Data\Trimble GeoData folder.  Note this folder is right in the Synchronizer data folder level, and not one more deep in the <PC> folder.  Also, if you could provide the job you were trying to open and the GGF file we can look into it.  

     

    We recently implemented a change in Siteworks v1.10 in the coordinate system engine, and how it deals with Geoid file names, thier "internal name", and file locations, and this seems to be related to that.  I see you're using the latest version of Siteworks, so that is good. 

    If you need an immediate work around, it's likely that v1.03 will work for you.  



  • 6.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 08-05-2019 08:08

    Steve,

    Thanks for the reply back. Here is the link for the files in the folder structure it currently is. I'm pretty sure its correct as SCS900 was able to find it no problem and get me through my work that day.

     

    https://rackstation.whitcon.us:5001/sharing/6TlbFbFH3 



  • 7.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 08-05-2019 08:17

    Ok, so it seems related to the changes in the path of the GeoData folder.  

     

    So to fix it, just make a copy of the whole Trimble GeoData folder and paste it one directory up right into the Trimble Synchronizer Data folder.  So there should now be two folders in there, the TSC7 - K, and the copy of the Trimble GeoData folder... 



  • 8.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 08-05-2019 08:49

    Opened right up. Thanks! I'll have to remember to throw them in both

    folders.

     

    On Mon, Aug 5, 2019, 9:18 AM steve_dibenedetto@trimble.com <



  • 9.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 08-05-2019 09:52

    Great.  Glad it worked for you!  We are coming up with solutions for how to ensure that the right data gets to the right folder(s) moving forward, so there might be a little gap during the transition where it needs to be manually placed in both folders. But for now, it'll still require a manual copy/move.  



  • 10.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 08-05-2019 10:02

    Thanks Steve

     

    Appreciate the prompt answers here - great work

     

    Alan

     

    On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 10:53 AM steve_dibenedetto@trimble.com <



  • 11.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 05-13-2020 12:21

    Hi Steve, 

     

    I am having the same issue and have copied the folders as above but I still get the error when trying to test in theSCS900 emulator. The geoid file is saved in the geodata folder. 

     

    Thanks

     

    Kaleigh



  • 12.  Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 05-13-2020 13:34

    Hi Kaleigh,

     

    Might be easiest if you can zip up and send me your project folder in question, along with the GGF file.  I wonder if this might be more related to the GGF file and the Geoid's name rather than the location of the GeoData itself.  I specifically would be looking for the DC file and the GGF file to see if they match up.  So let's start there, and see if that's the issue rather than folder structure. You can either post a link to it here, or PM me a link.  

     

    SDB 



  • 13.  RE: Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 03-06-2025 15:35 
    Hola tengo el mismo problema que se ha mencionado, ya he hecho todo lo que se menciona, pero cuando importo el archivo geide al software SCS900 me dice que es imposible cargar la proyección, no se como solucionar esto, les agradezco si me pueden ayudar


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  • 14.  RE: Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 03-06-2025 15:35 
    Hello, I am having the same problem that has been mentioned, I have already done everything that is mentioned, but when I import the geide file into the SCS900 software it tells me that it is impossible to load the projection, I don't know how to solve this, I thank you if you can help me


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  • 15.  RE: Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 03-07-2025 09:24

    Hola Alejandra,

    Exactly what issue, the crash or the unable to find the geoid?

    What geoid are you using? And what coordinate system?  SCS900 is not supported anymore, and it's likely you're using a newer coordinate system & geoid that is not in the Current.csd (coordinate system database).  There may be a way to modify the Current.csd through the use of the Coordinate System Manager app.  Importing new coordinate systems into SCS900 is possible, but requires some careful configuration.

    I'd also suggest working with your SITECH and seeing if they can help as well.  They should have experts on staff who know how to handle such issues, and can always escalate to Trimble's support channel, who should be able to help out further if necessary.  



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    Steve DiBenedetto
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  • 16.  RE: Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 03-07-2025 23:56 
    The configuration I use is the following  UTM-WGS84-Fuso 33 system and I want to import the EGM08 geoid but for the configuration it only lets me import the EGM96, with a Trimble Siteworks tutorial video I imported it, however when I select it I get an error that the projection cannot be loaded.  I don't know how to solve it or how I can contact the Trimble support channel.  Thank you very much for answering.




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  • 17.  RE: Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 03-10-2025 12:34

    I am not seeing that coordinate systems as an option when creating a new project in SCS900.  All I see is World Wide/UTM and then no option for a zone 33 Fuso. 

    Can you send a screenshot of exactly what settings you are trying to setup in SCS900 when starting a new project?  I also don't see a simple EGM08.ggf file available either, there are very many flavors of EGM GGFs available. 

    So I need to know exactly what you are selecting for the coordinate system options and then what GGF geoid file you are trying to associate to the coordinate system.

    To contact Trimble support you work through the dealer that you purchased the equipment from, in this case most likely the local SITECH who are equipped to deal with SCS900 questions.  They are the first line of support for Trimble products. 



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  • 18.  RE: Re: Siteworks - Unable to load projection, GEOID

    Posted 03-06-2025 15:35

    hola, tengo el mismo problema que se menciona, ya hice todo lo que dicen sin embargo al cargar el archivo de geoide en el software SCS900 me dice que es imposible cargar proyeccion, te agradezco si pudieras ayudarme con esto, muchas gracias.



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