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Sam Lemon posted 01-05-2023 10:04
Hello All,

I am trying to find a less clunky way of reporting the collective volume inside multiple boundaries simultaneously.

The obvious answer for this is use the AOI (Area of interest) command, this can sum the collective volume for multiple closed polygons:



This issue is that the TBC takeoff reporting is incredibly slow and painful still. I have found it is much much quicker and less confusing to simply run earthworks reports with multiple boundaries selected between my produced takeoff surfaces. The drawback is it can only report the volume for one closed boundary at a time and does not do any summation or calculations across multiple polygons. I could do this manually in excel however that opens up the risk of making a mistake and is time consuming.





I'm only looking for simple volumes between 2 surfaces (bulk earthworks), I don't always need to know every material and site improvement. I feel like the "Earthworks Volume" report should be updated to allow it to be used with AOIs, forcing new users to use the takeoff routine is off putting and time consuming.

Another note on the "Earthworks volume" reporting, I would be hugely more efficient if instead of many bloated A4 pages it could just output an excel row with headers for each closed polygon. Pretty much all other software works this way. Also computing the totals at the bottom of each column would be very useful and help us to get to the key information much more quickly than at present.



Hopefully that all makes sense, Happy to do a screen capture to show the issue in more depth.

Many thanks for any help!

Cheers

Sam
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Charlie Sorg
Hi Sam,

Is there a reason Earthwork Summary is insufficient? I believe it has everything you need in one interface including the ability to reduce calculation time by running the volume by a defined grid size vs the standard surface to surface calculation method.
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Sam Lemon

I have tried the earthworks summary, unfortunately even with the volume grid it is just painfully unusable! 

It just took TBC 30mins to arrive at the volumes inside these 4 polygons and what it produced was over the top of 98% of it I don't need right now.

The earthworks volume function can arrive at the cut fill numbers for the 4 polygons in about 1min. I just cannot wait around for the take-off functions I have lost so much productivity in the past watching the green progress bar not move (my surfaces are as optimized as possible).

Even with every site improvement option turned off it still takes 30mins or so, its madness. 

It is much much faster for me to just run earthworks reports and sum them in excel myself which seems a little mad, the below was all done pretty quickly using volume boundaries and the earthworks volume report function. I built the take-off surfaces and then run bounded volumes between them.

Would it be possible to add AOIs to the Earthworks volume report? 

I really love the TBC product but this has been driving me mad for years.

 

Kind Regards


Sam

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Charlie Sorg
Can you send a link to download the data you're using so that I can have engineering look into this?
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Sam Lemon
Hi Charlie,

What is your email, I will DM you some files for the engineers.

Cheers

Sam
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Charlie Sorg
Sam,

You can DM me right in this forum.
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Rob Davidson
How about applying one set of the boundaries, eg. Area 1 boundaries, as surface boundaries to OG. alternatively, if this needs to be repeatable, 'Offset' OG surface by 0 within boundaries to create permanent surfaces you can repeatedly use. Unfortunately, this will require a separate report to be run for each collection of boundaries.
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Rob Davidson
Or have the boundaries joined by 0 width section. Easy and quickest way to do this is draw an overarching boundary around everything and use Track Region Outline with options to for both 'Interior regions' and 'Merge holes' checked, then simply clip away the outside boundary portion. Might have to manage outside boundary to make sure internal ones connect to one another and not the outer.
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Saif Bin Darwish
Just wondering. Is it not possible to create a Style Sheet to serve this purpose?