TBC Macros and Extensions

Since the TBC crew is unwilling to look into this since literally years, Access is meanwhile able to do it, I'm tinkering on a macro that loads tiles from a WMTS source. 

The TrimbleMaps background seems to be tied directly to HoopsViewCache, sorting everything out automatically. Hence it would just be a matter of Services.TrimbleMaps having the option to set different tile tokens for the URL. Instead of 0,1,2 it'd need to change TileCol, TileRow, TileMatrix. That's so simple that it is unbelievable it isn't possible after so many years.

Currently, there doesn't seem to be a way to tweak Services.TrimbleMaps to download Tiles from anything different than TrimbleMaps, I'm running into errors/dead ends.

I can get me the projects map services with

tms = TrimbleMapsService(self.currentProject, 23) # don't know why it insists on a zoom levelals = tms.AvailableServices

But the changes I make to this public list, either by adding a new entry or just changing one of the URL's, won't persist. It is reset the next time I run the macro.

Since the activeForm.View.ViewCache.TrimbleMapType is just pointing to a GUID from the above AvailableServices list it should just be a matter of making my changes there persistent. Just don't know how.

It does have some helpers for computing the tile numbers.

My own code for retrieving the tiles still needs some tuning but works. And I can add them as OverlayGeoImage.

But the imagery is shown on top of everything else, covering it.

Is there a way to show OverlayGeoImage tiles in the background, behind all drawing entities? Kind of an UnderlayBag.

Is it somehow possible to remove entities from an OverlayBag without resetting/rebuilding it? I can avoid adding tiles that exist already, but I also want to remove tiles that are outside the current view, without erasing and rebuilding and reloading all tiles, while optimizing the bags amount of content.

Or is there another way to add background imagery? I found something like ImageTileNetwork or HoopsCacheView.

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Ronny Schneider
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Since the TBC crew is unwilling to look into this since literally years, Access is meanwhile able to do it, I'm tinkering on a macro that loads tiles from a WMTS source. 

The TrimbleMaps background seems to be tied directly to HoopsViewCache, sorting everything out automatically. Hence it would just be a matter of Services.TrimbleMaps having the option to set different tile tokens for the URL. Instead of 0,1,2 it'd need to change TileCol, TileRow, TileMatrix. That's so simple that it is unbelievable it isn't possible after so many years.

Currently, there doesn't seem to be a way to tweak Services.TrimbleMaps to download Tiles from anything different than TrimbleMaps, I'm running into errors/dead ends.

I can get me the projects map services with

tms = TrimbleMapsService(self.currentProject, 23) # don't know why it insists on a zoom levelals = tms.AvailableServices

But the changes I make to this public list, either by adding a new entry or just changing one of the URL's, won't persist. It is reset the next time I run the macro.

Since the activeForm.View.ViewCache.TrimbleMapType is just pointing to a GUID from the above AvailableServices list it should just be a matter of making my changes there persistent. Just don't know how.

It does have some helpers for computing the tile numbers.

My own code for retrieving the tiles still needs some tuning but works. And I can add them as OverlayGeoImage.

But the imagery is shown on top of everything else, covering it.

Is there a way to show OverlayGeoImage tiles in the background, behind all drawing entities? Kind of an UnderlayBag.

Is it somehow possible to remove entities from an OverlayBag without resetting/rebuilding it? I can avoid adding tiles that exist already, but I also want to remove tiles that are outside the current view, without erasing and rebuilding and reloading all tiles, while optimizing the bags amount of content.

Or is there another way to add background imagery? I found something like ImageTileNetwork or HoopsCacheView.

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Ronny Schneider
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This is not WMTS as i.e. provided by Propeller, Google Maps, or other GIS and imagery sources.

TBC still only supports WMS. Is something different.

Google "difference wms wfs wmts"

🤔

Since the TBC crew is unwilling to look into this since literally years, Access is meanwhile able to do it, I'm tinkering on a macro that loads tiles from a WMTS source. 

The TrimbleMaps background seems to be tied directly to HoopsViewCache, sorting everything out automatically. Hence it would just be a matter of Services.TrimbleMaps having the option to set different tile tokens for the URL. Instead of 0,1,2 it'd need to change TileCol, TileRow, TileMatrix. That's so simple that it is unbelievable it isn't possible after so many years.

Currently, there doesn't seem to be a way to tweak Services.TrimbleMaps to download Tiles from anything different than TrimbleMaps, I'm running into errors/dead ends.

I can get me the projects map services with

tms = TrimbleMapsService(self.currentProject, 23) # don't know why it insists on a zoom levelals = tms.AvailableServices

But the changes I make to this public list, either by adding a new entry or just changing one of the URL's, won't persist. It is reset the next time I run the macro.

Since the activeForm.View.ViewCache.TrimbleMapType is just pointing to a GUID from the above AvailableServices list it should just be a matter of making my changes there persistent. Just don't know how.

It does have some helpers for computing the tile numbers.

My own code for retrieving the tiles still needs some tuning but works. And I can add them as OverlayGeoImage.

But the imagery is shown on top of everything else, covering it.

Is there a way to show OverlayGeoImage tiles in the background, behind all drawing entities? Kind of an UnderlayBag.

Is it somehow possible to remove entities from an OverlayBag without resetting/rebuilding it? I can avoid adding tiles that exist already, but I also want to remove tiles that are outside the current view, without erasing and rebuilding and reloading all tiles, while optimizing the bags amount of content.

Or is there another way to add background imagery? I found something like ImageTileNetwork or HoopsCacheView.

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Ronny Schneider
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I'm ignorant about the nuts and bolts behind this.

When TBC launched the WMS support I was excited to search for compatible background map options for things like property owner maps, state highway milepost maps, etc, but never got anything to work... not sure who that functionality was intended for.

This is not WMTS as i.e. provided by Propeller, Google Maps, or other GIS and imagery sources.

TBC still only supports WMS. Is something different.

Google "difference wms wfs wmts"

🤔

Since the TBC crew is unwilling to look into this since literally years, Access is meanwhile able to do it, I'm tinkering on a macro that loads tiles from a WMTS source. 

The TrimbleMaps background seems to be tied directly to HoopsViewCache, sorting everything out automatically. Hence it would just be a matter of Services.TrimbleMaps having the option to set different tile tokens for the URL. Instead of 0,1,2 it'd need to change TileCol, TileRow, TileMatrix. That's so simple that it is unbelievable it isn't possible after so many years.

Currently, there doesn't seem to be a way to tweak Services.TrimbleMaps to download Tiles from anything different than TrimbleMaps, I'm running into errors/dead ends.

I can get me the projects map services with

tms = TrimbleMapsService(self.currentProject, 23) # don't know why it insists on a zoom levelals = tms.AvailableServices

But the changes I make to this public list, either by adding a new entry or just changing one of the URL's, won't persist. It is reset the next time I run the macro.

Since the activeForm.View.ViewCache.TrimbleMapType is just pointing to a GUID from the above AvailableServices list it should just be a matter of making my changes there persistent. Just don't know how.

It does have some helpers for computing the tile numbers.

My own code for retrieving the tiles still needs some tuning but works. And I can add them as OverlayGeoImage.

But the imagery is shown on top of everything else, covering it.

Is there a way to show OverlayGeoImage tiles in the background, behind all drawing entities? Kind of an UnderlayBag.

Is it somehow possible to remove entities from an OverlayBag without resetting/rebuilding it? I can avoid adding tiles that exist already, but I also want to remove tiles that are outside the current view, without erasing and rebuilding and reloading all tiles, while optimizing the bags amount of content.

Or is there another way to add background imagery? I found something like ImageTileNetwork or HoopsCacheView.

------------------------------
Ronny Schneider
------------------------------

Since the TBC crew is unwilling to look into this since literally years, Access is meanwhile able to do it, I'm tinkering on a macro that loads tiles from a WMTS source. 

The TrimbleMaps background seems to be tied directly to HoopsViewCache, sorting everything out automatically. Hence it would just be a matter of Services.TrimbleMaps having the option to set different tile tokens for the URL. Instead of 0,1,2 it'd need to change TileCol, TileRow, TileMatrix. That's so simple that it is unbelievable it isn't possible after so many years.

Currently, there doesn't seem to be a way to tweak Services.TrimbleMaps to download Tiles from anything different than TrimbleMaps, I'm running into errors/dead ends.

I can get me the projects map services with

tms = TrimbleMapsService(self.currentProject, 23) # don't know why it insists on a zoom levelals = tms.AvailableServices

But the changes I make to this public list, either by adding a new entry or just changing one of the URL's, won't persist. It is reset the next time I run the macro.

Since the activeForm.View.ViewCache.TrimbleMapType is just pointing to a GUID from the above AvailableServices list it should just be a matter of making my changes there persistent. Just don't know how.

It does have some helpers for computing the tile numbers.

My own code for retrieving the tiles still needs some tuning but works. And I can add them as OverlayGeoImage.

But the imagery is shown on top of everything else, covering it.

Is there a way to show OverlayGeoImage tiles in the background, behind all drawing entities? Kind of an UnderlayBag.

Is it somehow possible to remove entities from an OverlayBag without resetting/rebuilding it? I can avoid adding tiles that exist already, but I also want to remove tiles that are outside the current view, without erasing and rebuilding and reloading all tiles, while optimizing the bags amount of content.

Or is there another way to add background imagery? I found something like ImageTileNetwork or HoopsCacheView.

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Ronny Schneider
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